Re: Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem (Dale Mellor)

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 14:43:30 -0700
Andy Tai <atai@atai.org> wrote:

> > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:36:29 +0100
> > From: Dale Mellor <guix-devel-0brg6a@rdmp.org>
> > I use Guix as a tool to develop my own projects, private and
> > personal for reasons I'm keeping to myself.  As part of that I write package
> > definitions for them, and use the Guix machinery to build and test.  I 
> > *cannot*
> > have Guix just giving my code away to anybody, that is just fundamentally 
> > wrong.
> >  
> If you release software as free software, you are giving away
> software, to anybody and everybody.

Legally yes. But I think Dale talks about the social rules that I have been 
repeating in these threads :)
 
> >   We need to ask what is Guix?  A free operating system, a framework for
> > developing free operating systems, or a more generic tool for software
> > development and deployment?  If the latter it *cannot* do nefarious things
> > without explicit consent.  
> 
> Guix is a free operating system _and_ a generic tool for software
> development and deployment.   It makes no sense to say it does nefarious 
> things
> without explicit consent.  Just like you cannot try to prohibit GNU
> Make from being  used to do nefarious things like building malware.
> You cannot place usage restriction on free software.

We already do tho! We restrict what one can do if they interact with GPL code. 
Aside from that even Guix uploading all code from the packages to
SWH that basically feeds it to a LLM model is indeed not honoring consent of 
the author of the package. What you can do legally doesn't matter if you are an 
asshole after all.
So in this context it absolutely makes sense. Because we have social rules 
around consent and Guix doesn't seem to be following them currently.

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