Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive

[Kaelyn]

On Monday, March 18th, 2024 at 2:28 AM, Simon Tournier 
<zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> On sam., 16 mars 2024 at 08:52, Ian Eure ian@retrospec.tv wrote:
> 
> > They appear to be using the archive to build LLMs:
> > https://www.softwareheritage.org/2024/02/28/responsible-ai-with-starcoder2/
> 
> 
> About LLM, Software Heritage made a clear statement:
> 
> https://www.softwareheritage.org/2023/10/19/swh-statement-on-llm-for-code
> 
> Quoting:
> 
> We feel that the question is no longer whether LLMs for code
> should be built. They are already being built, independently of
> what we do, and there is no turning back. The real question is
> how they should be built and whom they should benefit.
> 
> Principles:
> 
> 1. Knowledge derived from the Software Heritage archive must be
> given back to humanity, rather than monopolized for private
> gain. The resulting machine learning models must be made available
> under a suitable open license, together with the documentation and
> toolings needed to use them.
> 
> 2. The initial training data extracted from the Software Heritage
> archive must be fully and precisely identified by, for example,
> publishing the corresponding SWHID identifiers (note that, in the
> context of Software Heritage, public availability of the initial
> training data is a given: anyone can obtain it from the
> archive). This will enable use cases such as: studying biases
> (fairness), verifying if a code of interest was present in the
> training data (transparency), and providing appropriate attribution
> when generated code bears resemblance to training data (credit),
> among others.
> 
> 3. Mechanisms should be established, where possible, for authors to
> exclude their archived code from the training inputs before model
> training begins.
> 
> I hope it clarifies your concerns to some extent.
> 
> 
> Moreover, you wrote: « I want absolutely nothing to do with them. »
> 
> Maybe there is a misunderstanding on your side about what “free
> software” and GPL means because once “free software”, you cannot prevent
> people to use “your” free software for any purposes you dislike.
> 
> If you want to bound the use cases of the software you create, you need
> to explicitly specify that in the license. And if you do, your software
> will not be considered as “free software”.
> 
> That’s the double sword of “free software”. :-)

Hi,

I want to stress that I am not a lawyer, but my (possiblibly outdated) 
understanding of what machine learning models can and cannot do with regards to 
their training data, and a reading of parts of the GPL 2 and 3, suggest that at 
best the SWH's LLM is in a legal grey area and at worst directly violates the 
license of GPL code that it ingests for training. As such, I don't think it is 
accurate to say "you cannot prevent people to use “your” free software for any 
purposes you dislike" in response to concerns about automatic inclusion of free 
software into LLM training sets. Specifically, my understanding (as of a few 
years ago) is that LLMs have difficulty tracing and atttributing various 
aspects of its training to specific inputs, which seems to be in violation of 
of e.g. Sections 5 and 6 of the GPL. Specific quotes from those sections 
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html:

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and from Section 6:
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And from the GPL 2 text at 
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html:

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Again, I want to emphasize IANAL. As a layman, my understanding of ML model 
training is that it cannot maintain enough of a trace between GPLed input code 
and its (modified) use in the output to maintain the licensing and distribution 
requirements from either the GPL 3 sections above or the GPL 2 sections 2 and 
3. I also believe that section 4 of the GPL 2 directly applies to these LLM 
code models.

There is also the potential licensing issues of mixing (potentially) 
incompatible licenses in the training data sets, such as GPL and CDDL code, 
with no way to distinguish or separate the (arguably) modified sources from 
each.

Just my $0.02 USD on the LLM side of matter, as much of the discussion seems to 
be around the cost vs benefit of rewriting the git history for updating 
personally identifying information.

Cheers,
Kaelyn

> 
> Cheers,
> simon