Re: Non-bootstrappable NPM packages

[Wojtek Kosior]

Hi there

not sure if this was mentioned here but in case it wasn't — there was a
proof of concept packaging of sucrase and jQuery as early as in 2022.
You can see the relevant thread here[1].

So, yes, it's definitely easier than it seems (and easier than some
used to describe it) — the only problem is that nobody seems to have
picked up that work done by zamfofex ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wojtek

[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-11/msg00191.html

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On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:04:33 +0100 Jelle Licht <jlicht@fsfe.org> wrote:

> Nicolas Graves <ngraves@ngraves.fr> writes:
> 
> > On 2019-07-24 15:41, Jelle Licht wrote:
> >  
> >> Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com> writes:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>  
> >>> I’ve come to think that bootstrapping JavaScript might be easier than it
> >>> looks.  As time goes on, Node gets better at the newer JavaScript
> >>> features.  This removes the need for things like Babel or Rollup, since
> >>> with some care, Node can run the source directly with out any
> >>> transformations or bundling.  That being said, TypeScript looks to be a
> >>> major issue, as it is used in many fundamental JavaScript packages and
> >>> it is not bootstrappable.  
> >>
> >> Very recently (IE about 94 minutes ago), I found out something
> >> interesting that might be helpful; Sucrase[0] is, among other things, a
> >> typescript transpiler that does not do any type checking, and it only
> >> has some runtime dependencies.
> >>
> >> I created some “fiio”-packages as well [1] , and I have confirmed that
> >> it actually works! My next step was of course to compile TypeScript
> >> proper, and this worked with one tiny snag that I reported at [2]. After
> >> manually fixing these problems in the TypeScript source tree, I was able
> >> to transpile the TypeScript sources using guix-packaged
> >> `node-sucrase-bootstrap'.  
> >
> > Hi Jelle!
> >
> > Did someone made some progress on the build-system since that to allow
> > for this to be taken into account? If you still have it, could you share
> > your "fiio" packages once again? The paste link is expired. Thanks!  
> 
> I don't have them anymore, but I could re-generate them.
> Are you still interested, or am I too slow in responding, and are your
> other node-related emails more relevant by now?
> 
> KR,
> - Jelle
> 
>

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