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Re: Frequent locales problems for new users
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Tobias Geerinckx-Rice |
Subject: |
Re: Frequent locales problems for new users |
Date: |
Wed, 18 Mar 2020 17:22:41 +0100 |
Ludo', Thorsten, Leo,
Ludovic Courtès 写道:
Well, we still need to be able to install locales somehow,
right? :-)
This isn't about removing all locale packages, just the
poorly-named -utf8- variant.
Thorsten Wilms 写道:
smaller than glibc-locales, but still sufficient for many cases.
Is that wrong?
Yes and no. It's sufficient for many (but not most) humans, but
then that's true for ar_AE as well ;-)
Here's what it contains:
de_DE.utf8 el_GR.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_FR.utf8 tr_TR.utf8
Offering this as our only choice of ‘sufficient’ user locales has
some unpleasant cultural overtones to say the least.
Where it is useful, and apparently does cover the majority of use
cases, is in test suites &c. It's a good package for machines.
Hiding it would make that clear, as we already do with
tzdata-for-tests.
Ludovic Courtès 写道:
As for ‘glibc-utf8-locales’ vs. ‘glibc-locales’: the reason for
choosing
the former by default over the latter is size (14 MiB vs. 917
MiB).
Perhaps an improvement would be for ‘glibc-utf8-locales’ to be
more true
to its name: to include all the UTF-8 locales glibc supports
rather than
an arbitrary sample thereof.
That would make it well-named, so good by me!
Kind regards,
T G-R
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- Frequent locales problems for new users, Leo Famulari, 2020/03/17
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Efraim Flashner, 2020/03/18
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Thorsten Wilms, 2020/03/18
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users,
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- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Ludovic Courtès, 2020/03/18
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Leo Famulari, 2020/03/18
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Ludovic Courtès, 2020/03/21
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Gábor Boskovits, 2020/03/21
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Leo Famulari, 2020/03/21
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Leo Famulari, 2020/03/21
- Re: Frequent locales problems for new users, Ludovic Courtès, 2020/03/26