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Re: namespaces, goops, etc.
From: |
Mikael Djurfeldt |
Subject: |
Re: namespaces, goops, etc. |
Date: |
08 Nov 2000 06:01:57 +0100 |
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Michael Livshin <address@hidden> writes:
> Mikael Djurfeldt <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > Actually, `define-class', `define-generic', and, `define-method' are
> > all supposed to be top-level forms and not allowed in other contexts.
> > There should be error checking in the last two as well.
>
> but why? ordinary defines can be both top-level and internal, so why
> not these?
>
> I mean, `(define-class foo)' is just (ideally)
> `(define foo (make-class))', no?
These guys are all special.
1. define-class - class redefinition protocol
2. define-method - may need to define the GF
3. define-generic - may pick up a default method
3 is most questionable. 1 and 2 are both important for convenience.
BTW, personally I don't like add-method!. I think we should head
towards constructs which can be optimized by a compiler.
For example, with my let-generic example, the local generic function
will have to be reconstructed (and its method cache rebuilt) every
time the local code is evaluated. If we had used a closure instead,
the only work involved is the consing of the environment pointer with
the code. A better API for local generics would give us freedom to
improve the implementation later into something similar.
Best,
Mikael
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., (continued)
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., thi, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Michael Livshin, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Lars J. Aas, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Michael Livshin, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Lars J. Aas, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Michael Livshin, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Lars J. Aas, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Lars J. Aas, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Mikael Djurfeldt, 2000/11/06
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Michael Livshin, 2000/11/07
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc.,
Mikael Djurfeldt <=
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Mikael Djurfeldt, 2000/11/06
Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Mikael Djurfeldt, 2000/11/06
Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Mikael Djurfeldt, 2000/11/06
Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Jost Boekemeier, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Lars J. Aas, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., thi, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Jost Boekemeier, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Michael Livshin, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., thi, 2000/11/03
- Re: namespaces, goops, etc., Lars J. Aas, 2000/11/03