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Re: Dijkstra's Methodology for Secure Systems Development


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Dijkstra's Methodology for Secure Systems Development
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:16:49 +0300

> From: Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer <address@hidden>
> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 14:46:01 +0200
> Cc: Ian Grant <address@hidden>, guile-devel <address@hidden>
> > If there are some people accessing my files, why should I feel
> > unfomfortable with that?  Why can't I trust that someome with such
> > great power isn't going to be mean and evil?
> 
> I always like to say, "there are no James Bond villains on Earth."  The
> Hollywood trope of a sociopathic villain who's consciously evil for the
> sake of it is a big distraction from the fact that groups like the Nazi
> party or people like Joseph Stalin have in fact existed and came into
> positions of power in our very real world.  And they didn't feel they
> were evil; they genuinely believed they were doing the right thing.  How
> long has it been since such a "scandal" of humanity last happened?  Is
> it really thoroughly implausible that it would happen again?  Has it
> even really stopped happening entirely, or is one of the most powerful
> countries on the world supporting (even if indirectly) the bombardment
> of civilians and the torture of captives in the Middle East right now?

Evil is not about right and wrong.  Evil is about moral and immoral,
lawful and unlawful.  If you don't understand the fundamental
difference between those categories, perhaps you should refrain from
talking about Hitler, Stalin, and bombardment of civilians.  Certainly
here, where you yourself admitted this is OT.



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