Re: Guile: What's wrong with this?

[Mike Gran]

> From: Mark H Weaver <address@hidden>
 >>  It is curious that action of 'copy' really means the
>>  action of 'create a copy with different properties'.
>>   
>>  Shouldn't (string-copy "a") create another immutable string?
> 
> Why would you want to copy an immutable string?
> 
>>  Likewise, shouldn't (substring "abc" 1) return an immutable 
> substring?

I was being too snarky and rhetorical.  Gotta stop writing e-mail
before getting coffee.
 
To say something possibly semi-constructive...
 
The word 'string' in Scheme is overloaded to mean both string
immutables and string mutables.   Since a string immutable
can't be modified to be a mutable, they really are different
object types.  String mutables appear to still exist in the 
latest draft of R7RS. 
 
Many of the procedures that operate on strings will are overloaded
to take both immutables and mutables, but some, like string-set!
take only mutables.
 
There is an obvious syntax to construct a string immutable
object: namely to have it appear as a literal in the source code.
There thus isn't a need for a constructor function.
 
There is a need for a constructor function to create string mutables,
because a literal string in the source code indicates a string immutable.
 
There are such constructors: (string <char> ...) and (make-string k <char>)
which is fine.
 
But there is no constructor for a string mutable that initializes
it with a string in Guile 2.0.  There was in Guile 1.8, where
you could do (define <var-name> <string-literal>). 
 
So instead, syntactically, we now have to use 'string-copy' or 'substring'
for its *side-effects*, namely that it doesn't mark the copy immutable.
Those are rather poor and confusing names for constructors.
 
If making such a suggestion weren't pointless, I'd pitch the idea
of overloading 'string' or 'make-string' so they can be used as
a constructor of a string mutable.  Something like
(string <string-literal>) or (make-string <string-literal>).  This
would be clearer than using string-copy, I think.
 
Thanks,
 
Mike