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Re: Docs


From: Franklin PIAT
Subject: Re: Docs
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:34:52 +0100

Hi,

Have you made progress regarding the re-licensing of the current grub
manual under GFDL ? (with no cover text and no invariant ?)

Franklin

On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 15:34 +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 02:43:59PM +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote:
> > On Thursday 31 January 2008 13:50, Robert Millan wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:28:50PM +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote:
> > > > Anyway, the best way of using texinfo is to start from examples. In our
> > > > case, you can copy the manual from GRUB Legacy, and tweak it. FYI, Emacs
> > > > supports texinfo very well.
> > >
> > > If the manual from GRUB Legacy (or a derived version under the same
> > > license) is in GFDL with invariant sections or front/back cover texts, I
> > > won't be able to add this in the Debian package.
> > >
> > > Is there a way we can get around this?  GFDL is fine as far as Debian is
> > > concerned, only invariant sections and front/back cover texts are a
> > > problem.
> > 
> > The GRUB manual is licensed under the traditional "as-is" term. It was only 
> > because GFDL hadn't been born yet when I wrote the manual, and I stopped 
> > working on GRUB Legacy when the FSF urged me to change the license.
> > 
> > As the manual is not so long, and the FSF hasn't published a paper version, 
> > we 
> > can omit Invariant Sections. However, we must change the license to GFDL in 
> > GRUB 2, anyway. You can see more info here:
> > 
> > http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/License-Notices-for-Documentation.html
> > 
> > If the FSF wants to print it out, I will not hesitate to add Invariant 
> > Sections. Actually, there was a chance that a printed version would be 
> > published, but it was not done, because I pointed out that it had some 
> > incomplete chapters, so not tolerable for the payment, and I didn't make 
> > effort on finishing them.
> 
> We can continue to work together in documentation untill that happens.  When 
> it
> happens, I'll have to remove the docs in Debian, and will only add them back 
> if
> someone forks the documentation (I don't have the motivation to do this 
> myself,
> but maybe someone else will).  This doesn't preclude that someone else adds 
> them
> to the non-free repository, but again I don't have the motivation to do this
> myself.
> 
> Please note that I don't necessarily agree with this policy;  in fact I think
> both sides have been overzealous on this, but it is nevertheless the policy 
> that
> I have to abide to.
> 
> If you think we can avoid this situation by providing documentation as part
> of a non-GNU package (e.g. grub-doc), or just put it in the wiki, I'd welcome
> that.
> 





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