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Re: man Macro Package and pdfmark


From: Larry McVoy
Subject: Re: man Macro Package and pdfmark
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 19:55:31 -0800
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30)

I don't know that I have the oomph to do it but one of the things I wanted
to do in my retirement was convert all the stuff that is in debian back
from info to man(7).

I *hate* info.  It has made Linux less available to a lot of people.

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 02:07:58PM +1100, John Gardner wrote:
> > The info stuff alienates anyone who is not an emacs fan
> 
> I'm an Emacs fan, and I also find the Info system abhorrent and confusing.
> It's a different story if you're using Emacs, because the Info system is
> well-integrated and as easy to navigate as any other buffer (and most Emacs
> users will have customised keybindings at that point, so browsing help
> isn't weird and confusing).
> 
> The standalone info(1) program, though? Please. I'm not going to learn a
> second set of keybindings just to navigate online help.
> 
> Let's face it: the beauty of the man page format is its straightforwardness
> and simplicity. Neither of which the Info system has.
> 
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:52, Larry McVoy <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:21:43AM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > >
> > > > And at this point, the man(7) language is better maintained and
> > > > appears to have more of a future than texinfo, which has been a lame
> > > > duck now for at least half a decade, probably longer:
> > > >
> > >
> > > Uh, oh, no idea why you bash texinfo from time to time.
> >
> > I rarely post here but I'm definitely in the man page format over texinfo
> > camp.  Info means you have to learn emacs to navigate.  Guess what?
> > A lot of the world loves vi over emacs but the vi guys did not make you
> > learn vi to read docs.
> >
> > The info stuff alienates anyone who is not an emacs fan.  That's why
> > people don't like info.   Documentation should be inclusive, info is
> > exclusive.
> >
> >

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Larry McVoy                  lm at mcvoy.com             
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