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Re: [groff] Announcement and call for project submissions


From: John Gardner
Subject: Re: [groff] Announcement and call for project submissions
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:51:43 +1100

*> OT: It's not obvious to me what offense John gave.  Reading the thread,>
there's a certain schoolmarmish officiousness in the reprimands.  He>
caught it on the chin for "sigh", "groan", and "ridiculous".  He didn't>
attack anyone.  I'm left wondering which emoticons are prohibited.*

I was also *banned* immediately after the PR got closed...

Glad I'm not the only one who found their intolerance bewildering. :-\




On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 10:40, James K. Lowden <address@hidden>
wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:58:54 +0100
> Ingo Schwarze <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > That's a clear case of a cultural clash.  While i (not that surprising
> > for an OpenBSD developer) like a concise and direct communication
> > style that doesn't use polite circumlocutions, i do realize that
> > such a style can cause communication breakdown in practice and can
> > harm diversity because what is perceived as offensive communication
> > style differs among individuals - and among cultural contexts.
>
> > >
> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/36469#issuecomment-458474772
>
> OT: It's not obvious to me what offense John gave.  Reading the thread,
> there's a certain schoolmarmish officiousness in the reprimands.  He
> caught it on the chin for "sigh", "groan", and "ridiculous".  He didn't
> attack anyone.  I'm left wondering which emoticons are prohibited.
>
> The thread ends with advice to consult the Code of Conduct, which I
> faithfully read.  The scolding didn't come with any specific citation
> as to what was violated, so we're left to interpret the 458 words.  I
> would guess "respect" is what was meant.
>
> Who decides? Who enforces? Who decides who enforces?
>
> Vigilantism is never a great way to enforce rules, or norms, and that's
> no less true of cultural vigilantism.  The Code of Conduct is just a
> feel-good notice of intent. It isn't something anyone can "warn" anyone
> else about; the warning itself ipso facto shows a lack of respect.
>
> John's experience is now on the interwebs for all to see, forever.
> It's not exactly a beacon of welcome.  If the team hopes to create a
> convivial environment, ISTM they're likely to get one, with a
> population trending toward zero.
>
> --jkl
>
>
>


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