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Re: [Groff] address@hidden: Re: Back to the future]


From: \"Robert Thorsby\"
Subject: Re: [Groff] address@hidden: Re: Back to the future]
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 11:09:51 +1100

On 06/03/14 10:30:48, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
Some months ago this list was quiet as usual. Suddenly Mr Eric Raymond appeared kindly offering himself to migrate Groff to git. At the same time two guys started to make strange proposals and Eric to flatter one of them and calling him the new project leader. Now surprise, surprise that strange proposals fit on a marked personal Eric wish of transforming Groff in some kind of DocBook.

Normally, I wouldn't reply to this as both Eric and Peter are quite capable of defending themselves.

However, the groff project has been looking for a new leader for a long time -- since Werner first announced his intention to step aside. I, for one, am very glad that someone of Peter's calibre is being slowly shoehorned into the role. I suspect that most people have been silent for fear of spooking the prey (that's enough mixed metaphors for one paragraph).

As for moving groff to git, that has been proposed, and subsequently accepted or rejected, for just about every *nix application in the known universe. I see nothing wrong in someone proposing it here, so long as the final decision (whatever that may be) is made for the right reasons.

As for Eric suggesting that groff be transformed into a DocBook clone, I appreciate that sometimes Eric works on a project so intensely that he forgets that others do not always share his plan for the future. So far as I am concerned those who disagree with Eric will soon let him know -- I know I certainly will. The subscribers to this forum have never been backward in letting their feelings be known, and I have no reason to doubt any change in the future.

As far as I am concerned: Eric, if you have any ideas, bring them forward and argue them with whatever passion you feel they deserve. For my part, if I disagree with you I shall say so, and in terms commensurate with those you have used; unfortunately, if I agree with you I shall probably stay silent.

Peter, you probably missed the quiet request for a leader to step forward. If you look around, you will see that we have all taken a step backwards -- and all of us (or, perhaps, all but one) are applauding.

Robert
Ubuntu & 'apt-get' are not the answer to Life, The Universe and Everything which is of course, "42" or is it 1.618?



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