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Re: [Groff] gtroff & soelim don't recognize ~ in paths


From: Miklos Somogyi
Subject: Re: [Groff] gtroff & soelim don't recognize ~ in paths
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:29:28 +1000


Ditto. Environment variables too. Everything valid to the shell, should be valid to groff.
Why? User convenience. Shouldn't this be consideration No 1?
Slight problems: which shell, what OS?
Again it raises the question: who is (or whom gnu.org targets as) a customer?

From my admittedly selfish point of view, usability far outweighs everything,
including `total compatibility'.
The less a user needs to concentrate of the `how' of the job, the better. E.g. integer arithmetic etc is a relic from an age long gone, it would be so nice
to say good bye to it.
I would rather pay for a thoroughly modern implementation of troff that only inherits the wonderful original ideas but not the constraints of the original times.

But that's just wishful thinking and I hope that this does not offend the keepers of the flame.

Miklos


On 10/04/2006, at 11:39 AM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

On Sunday,  9 April 2006 at 10:00:25 -0400, Larry Kollar wrote:
Werner LEMBERG asked, perhaps rhetorically:

Why on earth do you expect tilde expansion
within groff?

I'm used to it working in vi(m) and I seem to remember it working in
awk. I've also seen it work in X11-based file dialogs. Over time, I
suppose I've come to assume that ~ was a Un*x idiom rather than a
shell idiom.

Agreed; why shouldn't it work in groff?  It should be relatively
straightforward to implement it (looks the other way).

Greg
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