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Re: Fw: [Groff] [groff/patch] transparent gzip


From: Mark Veltzer
Subject: Re: Fw: [Groff] [groff/patch] transparent gzip
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:24:41 +0300

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On Sunday 25 August 2002 15:55, you wrote:
> On Sunday, August 25, 2002 7:35 AM,
> Mark Veltzer <address@hidden> wrote referring to the unbearable
> subtleness
>
> of being:
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> > On Sunday 25 August 2002 15:03, you wrote:
> >
> > It may sound harsh to you but I really don't care that much for
> > commercial UNIX vendors.
>
> Mark,
>
> you are preaching to the choir. Yet, commercial hardware and operating
> systems have their time and place. I am trying to be objective here. :)
>

I'm objective also...:) I didn't suggest doing something to sabotage 
commercial companies UNICES. I'm just saying that the fact that they will 
have a slightly bumpier road should not be made into a major consideration 
for us... (I do think that it's a minor consideration but I think the basic 
technical considerations of whether the idea is good or not should override 
it).

>
> And what about groff's CPU times? troff has always been a hard CPU hitter.

If
        bring_zip_file+unzip < bring_unzipped_file

Then:
        being_zip_file+unzip+groff < bring_unzipped_file+groff

Which is true. This is what I actually tested.

>
> >> In this hysteric times, when hard-drives are one US dollar per
> >> gigabyte, 80 GB hard-drives are the norm and CPUs with hardware
> >> clocks slower than 1.3 Gigahertz are obsolete, talking about the
> >> supposed need to compress man pages seems pointless to me.
> >
> > Again, this is not about disk size at all... It's about speed (and if
> > do get the speed benefit - then why waste the disk space...? You get
> > both ends of the stick...).
>
> If you really want speed and have the disk space, short-circuit the
> typesetting step storing all manual pages as typeset output.
>

They are doing that already. catman. But they are doing it just for manual 
pages requested not for all manual pages under the assumption that only a 
minority of the manual pages will be requested and those who will have a 
higher probability of being used again. So every time you do "man foo" foo is 
generated in terminal typeset format.

Mark.
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