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Re: [Groff] Re: ms docs?


From: Eddie Maddox
Subject: Re: [Groff] Re: ms docs?
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:36:48 -0500 (EST)

On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Werner LEMBERG wrote:

> <humor>
>   It seems that you also sometimes don't read my mails!
> </humor>
> 
> Only groff's extensions to the `ms' macros are available.  I don't
> know of any freely available docs for ms in the net.

Or remember all the details. True. And it goes both ways, and so we both
agree on that. But, you at least pointed it out to me, as I do to you. 
That's all I ask. Refreshing our memories. Dynamic RAM (DRAM). Thanks. 
(Peer tutoring?) 

Now, about ms docs. Given that Gaius used ms to recode the Groff Web site,
and I don't know it, and I am suppose to be the Web Master (as in Ship's
Master?) around here, that means the Groff Web site, as of right now, is
No Longer Maintainable, except for the bare necessities, which we already
have.

Choice: switch to me, which is documented, and I have already used
before, so I know it already, the simpler stuff at least.

Question: Then why didn't Gaius use me to start with? Why did he use ms
instead? How did he know...???  Ahhhh,,,, Does Gaius know something about
ms we don't know? Does Gaius know what all the ms macros are and how to
use them? How could he? It's Open Source, so wouldn't the Docs be Open,
too? Then, where are they? How could Gaius, himself, even be using
something that he, himself, does not have docs for? But he did, so he, at
least, must have some docs, right? So, where did he get them?

See the disconnect here? The fact that he used ms means Somebody has ms
docs Somewhere. Right? So, ms Is documented, after all, somewhere, it
would seem.

We've mentioned on this list about troff/groff having the same problem,
and Richard Steven's site has some docs for troff, thanks to someone
(Dean?) sharing that with us. 

So, do these two (three, with the Groff HTML docs dilemma I was in for a
time) episodes mean we need to do a Docs Inventory of what Groff can do,
and what is, and is not, documented, and where the docs all are, and go
get them all? 

I hereby Volunteer to be the Groff Docs Inventory Master, too. As soon as
we find those docs for ms, that is, so I can update the Web site by
adding a Groff Docs Inventory page to it. 

Thanks for any and all help.

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Eddie Maddox
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