Re: [gpsd-users] Problems with the gpsd website move

[Ed W]

On 03/03/2012 17:57, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Ed W<address@hidden>:
> > The only negatives I see are that it's a commercial backed project
> > and I sense that is less preferable to you than a non profit or
> > charity based, open source project?
> For-profit isn't a deal-killer for me.  Closed-source very nearly is.

I don't have a problem with ethical reasons.  Just one last pointer 
though - the key pieces of github are effectively opensource...

I noticed that Bitbucket now offers git, but unknown on static website 
hosting - not built on completely opensource
Gitorious doesn't offer static hosting and I have no experience of it's 
bug tracker - completely opensource

Neither of the above offer mailing list services


> Combining that with the fact that we'd lose integration between the
> mailing lists and bugtracker *is* a deal-killer.

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean?  I don't see that it lacks 
integration at all?

Can you describe
a) exactly what "integration" you have at present
b) what you believe you will loose

I think I can then either agree or dispel whatever problems you perceive?


> I'll write the horrrible hack required to get our pages onto Savannah.
> Beyond that, I don't think I'm going to see a solution to the forge
> problem until I write one.

I really don't see *how* you can integrate all these pieces?  One is 
built on public/private keys infrastructure, the other on 
username/passwords.  You need to solve that basic challenge before you 
can integrate them

Additionally, as of today it's trivial to use the same login tokens in 
multiple websites/systems, therefore I don't really see that a problem 
exists?  In fact I have personally moved away from having the same login 
tokens for different systems - instead I use unique challenging 
passwords for all services and then a password manager to manage all of 
these.  Obviously care needs to be taken to secure the password manager, 
but at present the larger risk seems to be compromised websites leaking 
the passwords which can then be reused in other systems if they all match!

So, personally I see what you are striving for as being a step 
backwards... I don't have a problem with you striving for that since you 
obviously disagree, but just highlighting that there may be other ways 
to look at the problem.

Lets see if we can't either get you happy with github or blow it out as 
an option for well researched reasons.

Good luck

Ed W