Re: Jenkins build is back to normal : gnustep #12

[Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller]

Hi Greg,

Am 01.04.2012 um 02:27 schrieb Gregory Casamento:

All of this defeats the purpose of the thing.  I don't want to do all of this work setting jenkins up only to make it easy for people to ignore by putting it on a mailing list which has no subscribers.

I would insist that, if another list is created, that all of the current maintainers subscribe to it to ensure that the message gets out when someone breaks the build. 

It is beneficial for as many people to know that the build is broken as possible so that it can be corrected by either the responsible party or by someone who Is knowledgeable enough to fix the problem.  There have, in the past, been regressions which have persisted for months without being discovered.  This system will help that never to happen again.  It does no good to have Jenkins announce issues with the build if no one hears about it.

I see that you want to create a feedback loop, which is IMHO a very good means to stabilize the code quality.

Would it be possible to mail only those who have write access to the repositories?

And if someone of these does not want to see the reports, it can be questioned why he/she has write access...

Nikolaus

GC

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Gregory Casamento <address@hidden> wrote:
> Actually, that's a good idea as well. :)
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jordan Schidlowsky
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Ya, I'll probably unsubscribe if I get broken build emails…  Pls create
>> another list.
>>
>> On 2012-03-31, at 9:46 AM, Ivan Vučica wrote:
>>
>> This way, everyone will get a chance to be spammed, and everyone will get a
>> chance to ignore the mail. I don't think you'll get the effect you're aiming
>> for. It's better if just the person who broke the thing got the mail, and if
>> others could occasionally check the build logs to see if anything is broken.
>>
>> Frankly, I'd unsubscribe from gnustep-dev (which may come as a relief to
>> some :-)) since my inbox is already too full of various things I want to act
>> upon, but never get a chance to. (Current unread conversation count: 414).
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 17:12, Gregory Casamento <address@hidden>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I, honestly, would like it reported to the list so that people OTHER
>>> than the person who broke it can act on it.
>>>
>>> All too often people will ignore the email.  If it is sent to the
>>> list, the maintainers as well as the person who broke it will know
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> Alternatively I could, instead of putting it to the list, copy myself
>>> and the other maintainers (Fred, Richard, David, etc) so that they can
>>> see when and if the build is broken.  But I would rather not spam
>>> personal emails in that way.
>>>
>>> Later, GC
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ivan Vučica <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> > Sending a mail to the person who broke the build really is the best way
>>> > to
>>> > go.
>>> >
>>> > But please do consider opening at least the logs for viewing purposes,
>>> > so
>>> > the person who broke the thing (and other interested parties) can see
>>> > what
>>> > went wrong. :-)
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:48, Gregory Casamento
>>> > <address@hidden>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> David,
>>> >>
>>> >> If you're asking if I can make Jenkins available on a website which is
>>> >> accessible to the outside world, I'm not sure if I should until I
>>> >> configure the logins so that not just everyone can administer it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Once I have that set up I will make this public.  Also, I will remove
>>> >> address@hidden, if you guys would like me to make it just send to
>>> >> the people who broke the build, that's fine.   I did a test with my
>>> >> own gnu address and it bounced, so I will need to manually configure
>>> >> the addresses in Jenkins for each of us.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks, GC
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, David Chisnall <address@hidden>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > On 31 Mar 2012, at 14:48, address@hidden wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> See <http://192.168.1.6:8080/job/gnustep/12/>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you're going to spam the list with these things, could you at
>>> >> > least
>>> >> > use a publicly routable address?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > David
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -- Sent from my Difference Engine
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Gregory Casamento
>>> >> Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
>>> >> yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Ivan Vučica - address@hidden
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gregory Casamento
>>> Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
>>> yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
>>> (240)274-9630 (Cell)
>>> http://www.gnustep.org
>>> http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ivan Vučica - address@hidden
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> Gregory Casamento
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Gregory Casamento
Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
(240)274-9630 (Cell)
http://www.gnustep.org
http://heronsperch.blogspot.com

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Gregory Casamento
Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
(240)274-9630 (Cell)
http://www.gnustep.org
http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
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