Re: Packaging problems

[Willow Liquorice]

Right. Perhaps the onus is on the developers (i.e. us) to make things a 
bit easier, then?

To be honest, I barely understand how the GNUnet project is put together 
on a source code level, let alone how packaging is done. One of the 
things I'm going to do with the Sphinx docs is provide a high-level 
overview of how the main repo is structured.

On the subject of complexity, I attempted to disentangle that awful 
internal dependency graph a while ago, to get a better idea of how 
GNUnet works. I noticed that it's possible to divide the subsystems up 
into closely-related groups:
        * a "backbone" (CADET, DHT, CORE, and friends),
        * a VPN suite,
        * a GNS suite,
        * and a set operations suite (SET, SETI, SETU).

A bunch of smaller "application layer" things (psyc+social+secushare, 
conversation, fs, secretsharing+consensus+voting) then rest on top of 
one or more of those suites.

I seem to recall that breaking up the main repo has been discussed 
before, and I think it got nowhere because no agreement was reached on 
where the breaks should be made. My position is that those 
"applications" (which, IIRC, are in various states of "barely 
maintained") should be moved to their own repos, and the main repo be 
broken up into those four software suites.

As Maxime says, GNUnet takes a long time to compile (when it actually 
does - I'm having problems with that right now), and presumably quite a 
while to test too. The obvious way to reduce those times is to simply 
*reduce the amount of code being compiled and tested*. Breaking up the 
big repo would achieve that quite nicely.

More specifically related to packaging, would it be a good idea to look 
into CD (Continuous Delivery) to complement our current CI setup? It 
could make things easier on package maintainers. Looks like Debian has a 
CI system we might be able to make use of, and all we'd need to do is 
point out the test suite in the package that goes to the Debian archive.