Re: [gNewSense-users] Re: gNewSense group in launchpad

[Kevin Dean]

I think there are two things to factor in.

1.) This group is not a part of gNewSense's development system.

What this means, quite briefly, is that you don't need to use
Launchpad to use gNewSense (and it will stay that way). It also means
that you do not need to use Launchpad to report gNewSense bugs (and
that will also remain so).

2.) There is no other way to raise critical freedom issues to Ubuntu.

If Ubuntu had two systems to file bug reports, one being Launchpad and
the other being a free software alternative, I don't think anyone
would report bugs to Launchpad. Since they don't have two systems,
bugs either go unfiled or filed using a web-based app (running on
their servers) that doesn't have publicly available source code.


Arguing that the gNewSense project is being hypocritical for filing
bugs on launchpad is about as stupid as arguing that this mailing list
is hypocritical because some of the people on it use Gmail, or that
using there internet for reporting bug is hypocritical because the ISP
or backbone providers use non-free software at some point.

Users of gNewSense are granted the freedom to choose. Some users
choosing to file bugs on Launchpad doesn't change that, I see no issue
at all.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Chris Andrew <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
>  I've been following this thread.  Instead of arguing the pro's and
>  con's of non-free Launchpad, how can we achieve the same objective
>  (define this), without compromising our stance on freedom?
>
>  Any ideas?
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Chris.
>
>
>
>  On 27/03/2008, Yavor Doganov <address@hidden> wrote:
>  > Karl Goetz wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > In this instance, we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
>  >  > Which helps us not at all.
>  >
>  >  Maybe, but it is not worth the degradation of freedom for the sake of
>  >  the "advance" of the project.  The mere existence of the project is
>  >  solely related to freedom, so you'll find it hard to convince true
>  >  believers that using a non-free tool is beneficial for the goal
>  >  gNewSense has declared to pursue.
>  >
>  >  Personally, I turn my face with disgust on acts like these and they
>  >  irrevocably shake my confidence in the project.
>  >
>  >  Remember BitKeeper, the situation is not radically different.
>  >
>  >
>  >
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>
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