Dave,
Thanks for your clarification. I didn't realise that Gobuntu encouraged the
use of other non-free software, although I did download it and it seemed to
be just another standard Ubuntu image.
I shall continue to try to lead on the gNS package freedom stuff, and keep
an eye on the gobuntu development.
Cheers,
Chris.
On 26/07/07, Dave Crossland <address@hidden> wrote:
> On 26/07/07, Chris Andrew <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > To clarify my concerns; I am a little worried that the two distros have
> > similar (if not the same (perhaps any diff could be clarified)) aims.
>
> There was a thread about this on the gobuntu list:
>
>
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gobuntu-devel/2007-July/000035.html
>
> > From a personal perspective, I need to know what the difference between
the
> > two objectives is, so that I and others can make a concerted effort on
> > whatever distro is closest to a personal preference.
>
> All in my opinion, could very well be wrong, but hope to help:
>
> Gobuntu will be used as a 'stooge' distro -
>
http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/taking-freedom-further
- so
> Canonical can put more proprietary stuff in the main Ubuntu while
> providing an up-to-date and fully-free distro for those who want it
> and who look to them for guidance, and Canonical can point at Gobuntu
> to appease critics who value freedom above convenience,
>
> Recommending Gobuntu to people is questionable, since it recommends
> main Ubuntu and Canonical implicitly. This is partly why the FSF
> declined the name "Gnubuntu." Also, the FSF/GNU Project does not do
> its own distribution because all GNU/Linux distributions are GNU (plus
> Linux) and if there was "_a_ GNU distro" that might work against the
> promotion of that fact; we can imagine "Oh no, this distro is Linux,
> not GNU, because GNU is $fsf-or-gnu-distro" type comments... and the
> GNUbuntu name would contribute to that.
>
> So, independent of the FSF and GNU Project but with the help of the
> FSF (server & hosting to make it possible) the gNewSense distribution
> take a popular distro and makes it fully free, without directly
> endorsing or referencing the upstream disto. Therefore it is possible
> to recommend gNewSense to new users, safe in the knowledge that it
> will not recommend to them to install proprietary software or promote
> the idea that proprietary software is okay.
>
> gNewSense could be built off a more user-friendly distribution in the
> future - Novell seems to be putting at least as much effort into the
> desktop as Canonical, and Red Hat are keeping up with the new
> competition too. If Fedora is listed on the GNU project's recommended
> distros list - very possible, given
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF -
this seems
> quite possible.
>
> Until then, to contribute to the development of gNewSense in the short
> term, help with the package checking, and long term, contribute to
> Gobuntu and help with the gNewSense artwork when its asked for by the
> project leads.
>
> I installed Gobuntu this week, and it appears to use the regular gusty
> apt repo, so as soon as you upgrade, the gobuntu stuff evaporates...
> Hmm...
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dave
>
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