Re: [gNewSense-users] Glossy GNU ?

[Karl Goetz]

Kevin Dean wrote:
> No "version" of Ubuntu will be supported by the FSF. When ALL versions
> of Ubuntu contain only Free Software, I'm sure they'll support it in a
> heartbeat.
>
> I also don't see Canonical ever making that move.
>
> I see the "Glossy GNU" as a way to keep Free Software developers on
> the "Ubuntu Train". I don't see this as a bad thing because it's
> understandable. Where my problem with Ubuntu come in is that they miss
> the core ideas of Free Software in the first place. There are two
> pillars of the Free Software idea... Using Free Software and SPREADING
> Free Software. Because Canonical is willing to eliminate that second
> part, i feel the "Don't get it." and as such, I don't trust them to
> produce a Free distro.
>
> Because the Ubuntu/Canonical goals are DIFFERENT than gNewSense's
> goals, they'll never cancel the need for each other. And as long as
> those differences exist, Ubuntu will NOT be my choice of distro.
>
> -Kevin
Hear hear. Well said :)
kk
>
> On 4/13/07, Yoni Rabkin Katzenell <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Matthew Flaschen <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>> > If Ubuntu makes GNUbuntu completely free (as in freedom), and uses
>> > separate repositories, I intend to use it.  It would be a bit
>> ridiculous
>> > to use a redistribution that changes nothing but the artwork just so I
>> > can say they don't separately distribute proprietary software.  That's
>> > just needlessly fragmenting the community.
>> >
>> > However, for now gNewSense is definitely my best free option and I am
>> > very grateful for it.
>> >
>> > Matt Flaschen
>>
>> I'll chime in and say that I agree with Mr. Flaschen here.
>>
>> I'll go with, and try to improve the distro that makes the most sense to
>> use based on the following criterion:
>>
>> First and foremost: Free as in "OKed by the FSF".
>>
>> Second: Backed by an organization/corporation that is committed to not
>> being evil (and I don't mean Google).
>>
>> Third: Technically meets my needs (this should not be a problem because
>> that essentially means: runs emacs and screen).
>>
>> So far, I don't understand how this "Glossy GNU" (or whatever it will be
>> called) can possibly pass the first criterion if in order to support it
>> and use it I'll have to the non-free Launchpad.

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Karl Goetz
User of gNewSense: Free as in Freedom - http://www.gnewsense.org
Australian Ubuntu users team - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam
User of Debian, The Universal Operating System - http://www.debian.org

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