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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] gNewSense 5 & skipping Ucclia


From: Simon Josefsson
Subject: Re: [Gnewsense-dev] gNewSense 5 & skipping Ucclia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:52:46 +0100
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Sam Geeraerts <address@hidden> writes:

> Op Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:01:31 +0530
> schreef arnuld uttre <address@hidden>:
>
>> gNewSense 4, Ucclia, alpha release was out long time ago, December
>> 2014 IIRC.  Ucclia is based on Debian 7 and now Debian 8 (8.2) is
>> already out. I think it will be a wise decision to invest time on
>> gNewSense 5 based off Debian 8, completely skipping Ucclia.  I have
>> several years experience in C and GNU/Linux.  How can I help ?
>
> I would still like to have a tangible release of gNewSense 4. But we
> can start preparations for gNewSense 5. Our current way of updating
> modified packages is too much manual work. It would be nice if we had
> something like this:
>
> - 1 bzr branch per modified package with Debian's debian folder
> - automatic tracking of this code
> - 1 bzr branch per modified package with gNewSense's debian folder,
>   initially branched from the Debian branch
> - with each update of the Debian branch, merge changes to gNS branch
>   and build new packages
>
> The merge step is the most challenging: the changelog will always
> conflict, patches might. Ideas are welcome.

Perhaps a first step towards fixing this is to get visibility on which
packages are involved, and what their status is.  How about an
automatically generated web page that list all packages that differ
between gNS and Debian?  It could contain version number of the package
version in Debian, and in gNS, and pointers to the respective
repositories.  If the version in gNS is lagging behind, the package
could be marked in red and float to the top, so that people can easily
find and start to work on fixing that package.

A similar automatically generated page to track all packages would be
useful, so users can see which packages has been receiving security
fixes in Debian that haven't yet been merged into gNS.  I'm currently a
bit hesistant about running gNS because I don't know how well it tracks
all security fixes in Debian.

Are there webpages like this already?

These pages would be useful to potential users that would like to
understand what the problems is with Debian, and how gNS resolve them.

/Simon

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