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Re: gm2 Digest, Vol 157, Issue 6


From: Johannes Slotboom
Subject: Re: gm2 Digest, Vol 157, Issue 6
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 13:29:37 +0100

Dear Gaius

I have to apologize for my lots of mails. 
As you indicated in your first mail I should consider the example you sent as a link on the use of ncurses.
The clear(), works on a window (object I guess). The code that works now (also leaving the bash-shell in a well behaved state after program termination is the following.

MODULE clear_screen_m2;

FROM ncurses IMPORT clear,beep,WINDOW,initscr,isendwin,endwin,wclear,wrefresh;
FROM InOut IMPORT WriteString, WriteLn, Read;
FROM M2RTS IMPORT InstallTerminationProcedure ;
 
VAR retVal:INTEGER;
    w   : WINDOW ;
    chr: CHAR;

PROCEDURE ResetScreen ;
VAR
   r: INTEGER ;
BEGIN
   IF NOT isendwin()
   THEN
      r := endwin()
   END
END ResetScreen;

BEGIN
   w := initscr() ;
   retVal := clear ();
   retVal := wclear(w) ;
   retVal := wrefresh(w) ;
   WriteLn;
   WriteString(" After first clear screen ");WriteLn;
   Read( chr );
   retVal := beep  ();
   retVal := clear ();
   retVal := wclear(w) ;
   retVal := wrefresh(w) ;
   (* retVal := clear (); *)
   WriteString(" After second clear screen ");WriteLn;
   Read( chr );
   retVal := beep  ();
   retVal := clear ();
   retVal := wclear(w) ;
   retVal := wrefresh(w) ;
   WriteString(" After third clear screen ");WriteLn;
   Read( chr );
  
   retVal := beep  ();
   retVal := clear ();
   retVal := wclear(w) ;
   retVal := wrefresh(w);
   IF NOT InstallTerminationProcedure(ResetScreen)
   THEN
        HALT
   END

END clear_screen_m2.

I used the following build command:

 gm2 -g -I. -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim
-I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log
-I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min -L.
-l:libncurses.so.5 -flibs=pim,log -fmakeall ./clear_screen_m2.mod*  

and the libncurses.so.5 was located in the same directory as the program.
I apologize again for my large amount of mails.

Have a nice day,

Hans

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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 10:34:42 +0100
From: Johannes Slotboom <address@hidden>
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Subject: Re: gm2 Digest, Vol 157, Issue 5
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Dear Gaius

In the meantime I found out how to link the program with the ncurses
library.

The following statement did the compilation and linking:

*gm2 -g -I. -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim
-I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log
-I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min -L.
-l:libncurses.so.5 -flibs=pim,log -fmakeall ./clear_screen_m2.mod*

I made a piece of test code (clear_screen_m2.mod):











*MODULE clear_screen_m2;FROM ncurses IMPORT clear;FROM InOut IMPORT
WriteString;WriteLn; VAR retVal:INTEGER;BEGIN   WriteString(" Before clear
screen ");WriteLn;   retVal := clear ();   WriteString(" After clear screen
");WriteLn;END clear_screen_m2.*

I get an "./a.out" which I can execute, though the screen is not cleared.


*slotboom@JS-at-Asus:~/development/DEF_SIMU$ ./a.out  Before clear screen
 After clear screen*
*slotboom@JS-at-Asus:~/development/DEF_SIMU$*

So although the function clear() is called the bash shell is not cleared.
Do you know what I still do wrong?

Have a nice day,

Hans


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> Dear Gaius
>
> Sorry for another mail from me about the usage of the ncurses.def to enable
> "clear()" of the working terminal.
> I copied the ncurses.def file into the directory where I do the
> compilation. I imported the clear functionality from it.
> Than my Modula-2 file nicely compiles, but it does not link:
>
> gm2 -g -I. -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim
> -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log
> -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min
> -flibs=pim,log -fmakeall ./SpinSimMain.mod
> make: Nothing to be done for 'SpinSimMain'.
> /tmp/ccDs7BDg.a(SpinSimMain.o): In function `Define_Batch':
> /home/slotboom/development/DEF_SIMU/./SpinSimMain.mod:1531: undefined
> reference to `clear'
> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> I have:
>  *libncurses.so.5*
> and a
>  *libncursesw.so.5*
>
> in the /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu directory and the .bashrc *LD_LIBRARY_PATH*
> includes this directory.
>
> One questions I have therefore:
>
> - are these the libraries I need to link the application to get the
> "clear()" function working, or do I need another ncurses library to be
> installed?
>
> Have a nice evening,
>
> Hans
>
> P.S. I have in the meantime got another MODULA-2 application working (apart
> from the clear() function) and am very happy with it!
>
>
>
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> >       (Gaius Mulley)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 13:42:09 +0000
> > From: Gaius Mulley <address@hidden>
> > To: Johannes Slotboom <address@hidden>
> > Cc: address@hidden
> > Subject: Re: Using pim/log/ulm together and clearing terminal
> > Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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> > Johannes Slotboom <address@hidden> writes:
> >
> > > Dear Gaius,
> > >
> > > I have my old Logitech Modula-2 program compiling again, and I am very
> > > happy about that!!!
> > >
> > > Since my program is a late 80tees beginning 90tees style where the
> > > user interactively selects from presented text menus in the console
> > > (newly bash-shell) I am in need for an equivalent for the Logitech
> > > Modula-2 "Screenmode(3)" functionalityt which cleared the DOS-screen
> > > and printed the new menu from the top of the screen again.
> > >
> > > I tried to simulate this behaviour by writing character 33:
> > >
> > > Write( CHR(33) );
> > >
> > > ( CHR(33) should be the erase shell character.)
> > >
> > > however this unfortunately does not work. Than I saw that in the Ulm
> > > library there is a module called "CallShell" in which I plan to call
> > > "clear" which would do the trick (I hope at least).
> > > VAR status: CARDINAL;
> > > BOOLEAN response := PROCEDURE Shell( "clear", status );
> >
> > Hi Hans,
> >
> > yes the special character codes are not interpreted (yet) in
> > Display/Terminal.  This could be added though.  At present there is a
> > substitute - which is to use the ncurses.def found in the examples:
> >
> >
> >
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gm2.git/tree/gcc-versionno/gcc/m2/examples/ncurses/ncurses.def
> >
> > there are a few tiny example programs in the same directory.
> >
> > > however if I try the latter there seem to be a problem with using the
> > > pim and ulm libraries. Namely trying to build my application with:
> > >
> > > gm2 -g -I. -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm -
> > > flibs=pim,log,ulm -fmakeall ./ilv.mod
> > >
> > > results in the following terminal output:
> > >
> > > gm2 -c -fmakeall0 -
> > > B/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc//x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0 -g -fonlylink -
> > > fobject-path=. -
> > >
> fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim
> > >
> -fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log
> > >
> -fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min
> > >
> -fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm
> > > -ftarget-ar=/usr/bin/ar -ftarget-ranlib=/usr/bin/ranlib -fplugin=m2rte
> > > -flibs=pim,log,ulm -fmakeall -I. -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log -
> > > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm -I -I .
> > > /ilv.mod
> > > /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm/libulm.a
> > > (libulm_la-SYSTEM.o): In function `_M2_SYSTEM_init':
> > >
> >
> /home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libulm/SYSTEM.c:622:
> > > multiple definition of `_M2_SYSTEM_init'
> > > /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim/libgm2.a
> > >
> >
> (SYSTEM.o):/home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libpim/SYSTEM.def:20:
> > > first defined here
> > > /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm/libulm.a
> > > (libulm_la-SYSTEM.o): In function `_M2_SYSTEM_finish':
> > >
> >
> /home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libulm/SYSTEM.c:773:
> > > multiple definition of `_M2_SYSTEM_finish'
> > > /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim/libgm2.a
> > >
> >
> (SYSTEM.o):/home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libpim/SYSTEM.def:20:
> > > first defined here
> > > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> > >
> > > So my additional question (apart from erasing the bash shell) is the
> > > question whether the ulm, log, pim and iso libraries cannot be used
> > > together in one application?
> >
> > it should be possible to use pim, iso and log in a single application.
> > The ulm is probably best to work with alone (or maybe with pim).  If you
> > use coroutines then you have to decide on a particular paradigm and not
> > mix them :-).  In conclusion they are designed to work together but if
> > the modules utilise aspects of SYSTEM.def/mod which contain different
> > declarations of the same named entity then problems arise,
> >
> > hope that helps,
> >
> > regards,
> > Gaius
> >
> >
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> Greetings, Johannes.
>
> On 01/05/20 13:17, Johannes Slotboom wrote:
> > Dear Gaius
> >
> > Sorry for another mail from me about the usage of the ncurses.def to
> > enable "clear()" of the working terminal.
> > I copied the ncurses.def file into the directory where I do the
> > compilation. I imported the clear functionality from it.
> > Than my Modula-2 file nicely compiles, but it does not link:
> >
> > gm2 -g -I.
> > -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim
> > -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log
> > -I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min
> > -flibs=pim,log -fmakeall ./SpinSimMain.mod
> > make: Nothing to be done for 'SpinSimMain'.
> > /tmp/ccDs7BDg.a(SpinSimMain.o): In function `Define_Batch':
> > /home/slotboom/development/DEF_SIMU/./SpinSimMain.mod:1531: undefined
> > reference to `clear'
> > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> Forgive my ignorance but where is "-lncurses" being specified?
>
> N.
>
> >
> > I have:
> > *libncurses.so.5*
> > and a
> > *libncursesw.so.5*
> >
> > in the /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu directory and the .bashrc
> > *LD_LIBRARY_PATH* includes this directory.
> >
> > One questions I have therefore:
> >
> > - are these the libraries I need to link the application to get the
> > "clear()" function working, or do I need another ncurses library to be
> > installed?
> >
> > Have a nice evening,
> >
> > Hans
> >
> > P.S. I have in the meantime got another MODULA-2 application working
> > (apart from the clear() function) and am very happy with it!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >        1. Re: Using pim/log/ulm together and clearing terminal
> >           (Gaius Mulley)
> >
> >
> >
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >     Message: 1
> >     Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2020 13:42:09 +0000
> >     From: Gaius Mulley <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden
> >>
> >     To: Johannes Slotboom <address@hidden
> >     <mailto:address@hidden>>
> >     Cc: address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>
> >     Subject: Re: Using pim/log/ulm together and clearing terminal
> >     Message-ID: <address@hidden
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> >     Content-Type: text/plain
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> >     Johannes Slotboom <address@hidden
> >     <mailto:address@hidden>> writes:
> >
> >     > Dear Gaius,
> >     >
> >     > I have my old Logitech Modula-2 program compiling again, and I
> >     am very
> >     > happy about that!!!
> >     >
> >     > Since my program is a late 80tees beginning 90tees style where the
> >     > user interactively selects from presented text menus in the console
> >     > (newly bash-shell) I am in need for an equivalent for the Logitech
> >     > Modula-2 "Screenmode(3)" functionalityt which cleared the
> DOS-screen
> >     > and printed the new menu from the top of the screen again.
> >     >
> >     > I tried to simulate this behaviour by writing character 33:
> >     >
> >     > Write( CHR(33) );
> >     >
> >     > ( CHR(33) should be the erase shell character.)
> >     >
> >     > however this unfortunately does not work. Than I saw that in the
> Ulm
> >     > library there is a module called "CallShell" in which I plan to
> call
> >     > "clear" which would do the trick (I hope at least).
> >     > VAR status: CARDINAL;
> >     > BOOLEAN response := PROCEDURE Shell( "clear", status );
> >
> >     Hi Hans,
> >
> >     yes the special character codes are not interpreted (yet) in
> >     Display/Terminal.  This could be added though.  At present there is a
> >     substitute - which is to use the ncurses.def found in the examples:
> >
> >
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gm2.git/tree/gcc-versionno/gcc/m2/examples/ncurses/ncurses.def
> >
> >     there are a few tiny example programs in the same directory.
> >
> >     > however if I try the latter there seem to be a problem with
> >     using the
> >     > pim and ulm libraries. Namely trying to build my application with:
> >     >
> >     > gm2 -g -I. -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm -
> >     > flibs=pim,log,ulm -fmakeall ./ilv.mod
> >     >
> >     > results in the following terminal output:
> >     >
> >     > gm2 -c -fmakeall0 -
> >     > B/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc//x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0 -g
> >     -fonlylink -
> >     > fobject-path=. -
> >     >
> >
>  fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim
> >     >
> >
>  -fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log
> >     >
> >
>  -fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min
> >     >
> >
>  -fobject-path=/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm
> >     > -ftarget-ar=/usr/bin/ar -ftarget-ranlib=/usr/bin/ranlib
> >     -fplugin=m2rte
> >     > -flibs=pim,log,ulm -fmakeall -I. -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/min -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/log -
> >     > I/home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm -I -I
> .
> >     > /ilv.mod
> >     >
> /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm/libulm.a
> >     > (libulm_la-SYSTEM.o): In function `_M2_SYSTEM_init':
> >     >
> >
>  /home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libulm/SYSTEM.c:622:
> >     > multiple definition of `_M2_SYSTEM_init'
> >     >
> /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim/libgm2.a
> >     >
> >
>  (SYSTEM.o):/home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libpim/SYSTEM.def:20:
> >     > first defined here
> >     >
> /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/ulm/libulm.a
> >     > (libulm_la-SYSTEM.o): In function `_M2_SYSTEM_finish':
> >     >
> >
>  /home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libulm/SYSTEM.c:773:
> >     > multiple definition of `_M2_SYSTEM_finish'
> >     >
> /home/slotboom/opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/m2/pim/libgm2.a
> >     >
> >
>  (SYSTEM.o):/home/slotboom/build-8.2.0/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgm2/libpim/SYSTEM.def:20:
> >     > first defined here
> >     > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> >     >
> >     > So my additional question (apart from erasing the bash shell) is
> the
> >     > question whether the ulm, log, pim and iso libraries cannot be used
> >     > together in one application?
> >
> >     it should be possible to use pim, iso and log in a single
> application.
> >     The ulm is probably best to work with alone (or maybe with pim).
> >     If you
> >     use coroutines then you have to decide on a particular paradigm
> >     and not
> >     mix them :-).  In conclusion they are designed to work together but
> if
> >     the modules utilise aspects of SYSTEM.def/mod which contain different
> >     declarations of the same named entity then problems arise,
> >
> >     hope that helps,
> >
> >     regards,
> >     Gaius
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