|Subject:||Re: [gforth] New member, new Forther|
|Date:||Sat, 26 Feb 2011 01:28:46 -0500|
You forgot to include the gforth list. I also highly recommend you get onto comp.lang.forth. Try it on http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/topics?hl=en if you aren't used to usenet.
Yes, there are many ways to run Forth without Windows, or without any OS for that matter. However, it takes a deep understanding about how CPUs and MLB's operate. You sound like you have a lot to learn before you are ready to tackle that. On the other hand, SVFIG (http://www.forth.org/svfig/) is having an Arduino Day (http://home.comcast.net/~forther/SVFIG/) tomorrow. You might want to watch for the postings that will follow, or if you are in the area, just show up.
From: Owen Brand [mailto:address@hidden]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:33 PM
To: Dennis Ruffer
Subject: Re: [gforth] New member, new Forther
One of you fellas said something about "running on bare metal". How is that possible without Windows? Is it possible to put gforth onto an EPROM or the like and run it from a custom built system? That.... would be COOL. =)
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Owen <address@hidden> wrote:
Yea, the big blue paper version is the one I've got. :). I'll be making a new gforth video tonight discussing stack manipulation... DUP, ROT, DROP, etc...
Also want to learn to redefine characters and place them on the screen---- still don't know how to so that in gforth. Any pointers? Maybe someone could direct me to a chapter in the manual. Is character redefinition based on hex code? For example:
That's assuming we're talking about 8x8 pixel chardefs. Thanks for you help!!!
On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:35 PM, "Dennis Ruffer" <address@hidden> wrote:
> You might want to make sure you are using the web version of Starting Forth
> at: http://home.iae.nl/users/mhx/sf.html
> The paper version is quite dated, and as you found, no Forths work exactly
> like that anymore.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:gforth-
>> email@example.com] On Behalf Of Owen
>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:01 AM
>> To: David Kuehling
>> Cc: address@hidden
>> Subject: Re: [gforth] New member, new Forther
>> Thanks everyone!!!! I appreciate your responses. I ended up writing my own
>> clear word. :)
>> : cls 60 0 do I cr loop ;
>> Works nicely... It's not actually wiping the screen, but it moves
> everything up
>> and "clears" my screen.
>> I was wondering why gforth was written--- I've studied Brodie's book
>> extensively and am re-reading some stack-manipulation techniques now.
>> This, however kind of puts me behind because none of the Forth dialects
>> used are directly derived from "Starting Forth." In any case, I'm REALLY
>> enjoying learning gforth... The manual is definitely geared towards a more
>> advanced Forther--- someone like me relies on a more tutorial-based info
>> packet, but I'm learning. I've posted a few videos about Forth recently to
>> YouTube channel and did a gforth video this morning. Looking forward to
>> getting more proficient. :). Thanks again, guys.
>> YouTube channel--- Opry99er
>> On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:12 PM, David Kuehling <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Owen" == Owen <address@hidden> writes:
>>>> Greetings, all... My name is Owen Brand and I'm a game developer for
>>>> the TI-99/4a. I recently started playing with a couple dialects of
>>>> Forth on the TI computer and fell in love with the syntax and
>>>> speed... Especially on our memory restricted machine. This led me on
>>>> a path to learn more about Forth. I came across gforth from a couple
>>>> videos on YouTube and downloaded. It's a lovely implementation and I
>>>> enjoyed defining some simple words.
>>>> I'm here to understand more--
>>> Hi Owen,
>>> let me try to anwer a few of the questions:
>>>> what was the reason for developing this language?
>>> You mean Forth in general or Gforth? Guess Forth was developed to get
>>> high-performance interfactive programming environment onto extremel
>>> underpowered machines.
>>>> How many regular users are there?
>>> Not sure. Judging from the activity of this mailinglist, maybe not
>>> too many :)
>>>> Are there any games in the gforth library?
>>> Gforth comes with a falling block game and a sokoban example. Try to
>>> gforth sokoban.fs -e sokoban -e bye
>>> gforth tt.fs -e tt -e bye
>>> I once wrote a chess playing program in (g)forth:
>>>> Development pages or forums?
>>> Usenet group comp.lang.forth is the most active place afaik:
>>>> Thanks in advance for any info... Forth has re-energized my
>>>> programming focus and I'm looking forward to immersing myself in
>>>> gforth. Thanks
>>> Note that Gforth also can be used as a simple cross-forth compiler for
>>> embedded systems. If you really have too much time on your hands you
>>> might be able to run an embedded gforth on your TI-99. Try running
>>> ./builed-ec r8c
>>> for an example of how to build firmware images that contain gforth
>>> (this example would build for an r8c microcontroller). The files in
>>> arch/r8c show you how that was accomplished.
>>> GnuPG public key: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~dvdkhlng/dk.gpg
>>> Fingerprint: B17A DC95 D293 657B 4205 D016 7DEF 5323 C174 7D40
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