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Re: [Gcl-devel] General GCL quesions


From: Camm Maguire
Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] General GCL quesions
Date: 13 Apr 2004 17:04:22 -0400
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Greetings!

Eric Merritt <address@hidden> writes:

> --- Camm Maguire <address@hidden> wrote:
> > I'm not really sure why this is either.  But I
> > suspect that at least
> > some component stems from the general attitude among
> > lisp developers
> > that public domain stuff is better than GNU-like
> > licensed software.
> > My opinion is that while the former may be in some
> > commercially minded
> > developers' best short term interest, the latter is
> > definitely more in
> > the best interest of the users and the long term
> > viability of the
> > project as a whole.  I also think that this apparent
> > bias towards
> > closed source lisp has nearly (or actually, only
> > time will tell)
> > killed the language, with all the resultant
> > implementation fracturing,
> > etc.  Am hoping that GCL can be to lisp what GCC has
> > been to C.
> 
>  Just to add to this, its a general perception that
> using GCL forces all of the compiled code to be under
> the GPL as well. This is what kept me from looking at
> GCL for the longest time. I don't have any problem
> with the GPL and have used it in more then one
> project, but I don't like the idea of being forced to
> use it just becuase I chose a particular language. I
> think many other developers share my feelings in this.
> 
>  Fortunatly this is a misconception as you and Mike
> pointed out to me recently.
> 
> > 
> > Just tried to add one now on savannah, and
> > apparently this facility is
> > temporarily disabled.  Please remind me in a bit and
> > I'll try again. 
> 
>  I put an 'unsanctioned' one out on yahoo groups
> called gcl beginners back when this was first posted.
> I will delete it.  I started a newbie faq out there as
> well, I would be nice if there was an easy place to
> put/add this type of faq information. At the moment I
> havn't found a gcl faq at all.
>  

If someone knows how to do the Wiki bit, I can coordinate as necessary
with savannah and gnu.org.

Take care,

> > I think it is a question of priorities.  Most would
> > rather us improve
> > ansi compliance first, no?
> 
>  Yes, yes. If people really need some type of
> multi-tasking cooperative multi-tasking is reasonable
> easy to implement in lisp.
> 
>  
> 
> > >  That said, python's twisted matrix has managed to
> > > implement database multiple io in a single thread
> > > (including database io) perhaps it would be 
> > > possible to port this. 
> >
> > This should be possible with select.  I've 
> > actually written a C
> > library that can multiplex web page sockets, 
> > and might integrate this 
> > into GCL at some point if there is interest.
> 
> 
> 
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Camm Maguire                                            address@hidden
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