Re: [Fsuk-manchester] Any folks in Manchester interested in participating in an Ubuntu Global Jam event if I were to organise one?

[Simon Ward]

Ubuntu makes some choices that are not aligned with free software philosophies. 
It might not be evil as such. I'm not using that language because I feel it is 
too harsh. After all, it does promote free software. The problem is the 
promotion of non-free software/services. It's not black and white.

If Manchester Free Software is a group for advocating free software, then it 
should most certainly stick to that. The contention appears to be around also 
discouraging non-free software. I think this is a reasonable thing to do: 
encourage the good, discourage the bad. I understand that some believe positive 
campaigning is the way forward, and negative campaigning should not be used, 
but that misses an important point: if you don't tell people what is wrong, 
they won't know. Our society generally works this way too when we deal with 
crime.

Simon

Steffi Tinder <address@hidden> wrote:

>>> I (personally) would find messages like that demotivating.
>>
>> I would find working for the benefit of a distribution that spies on
>its
>> users and sends local search strings to Canonical, to be
>demotivating.
>>
>For me Ubuntu is not Unity. And for me Ubuntu is more than Canonical.
>Is
>Ubuntu in general considered evil in this group? Or is it Canonical? I
>mean, you could choose a different window manager or just turn the
>feature off. Or fork Ubuntu :)
>
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