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Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought
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Ciaran O'Riordan |
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Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought |
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15 Dec 2006 19:22:12 +0000 |
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MJ Ray <address@hidden> writes:
> Did Tivo include an auto-upgrader which was used to remove some
> functions from the machines, or am I thinking of another similar
> product?
I'm not sure. But the important thing is that they could.
> Why not call these things locked computers instead of giving Tivo this
> interesting reward?
I don't have a strong preference, but by including spyware, Tivo does hand
us a nice example of what's wrong with not having control.
> > [...] If manufacturers implement #1 and #2, but told each
> > customer the (possibly unique) digital fingerprint and how the
> > customer can include it in software, then there would be no problem.
>
> Customer or user or owner?
Maybe I should move to owner, as Jason also suggested.
I used "customer" to highlight that the person being screwed is also the
person who is paying, so they should feel they deserve better treatment.
> I feel it would be good balance to the piece if it mentions the
> importance of allowing sysadmins to use strong cryptography to secure
> their software on their own computers, and how GPLv3 won't hinder
> that.
Ok. I think I can add a paragraph on that.
> IIRC, there are other licences which seem less careful about that.
Other licences that fight tivoisation? Which ones?
Thanks for the comments.
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- [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, Ciaran O'Riordan, 2006/12/15
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, Jason Clifford, 2006/12/15
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, MJ Ray, 2006/12/15
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, Chris Croughton, 2006/12/15
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, Nic James Ferrier, 2006/12/15
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, MJ Ray, 2006/12/18
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, Alex Hudson, 2006/12/18
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, Ciaran O'Riordan, 2006/12/18
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] Explanation of Tivosiation and problems - comments sought, Alex Hudson, 2006/12/18