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Re: Export Org with Org concept -- Re: Problems with C-c C-e file.org,


From: Eduardo Ochs
Subject: Re: Export Org with Org concept -- Re: Problems with C-c C-e file.org,
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 07:01:59 -0300

On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 06:47, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
>
> Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > (3) _is_ my experience with the Org mailing list.
> >
> > What I meant by "the developers like your questions" was roughly:
> > "recognizing that that person deserves help, and giving him tools that
> > would let him solve his problems in hours instead of in months or
> > years".
> >
> > For example, in this thread
> >
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-12/msg00674.html
>
> To be fair, your another message copy got some replies:
> https://list.orgmode.org/CADs++6j+oPnSA8pO7_sbCTmhOg5v_BEzkr6vBB1ECfHBprKmFQ@mail.gmail.com/
>
> > no one considered that if I was asking that then maybe it would be a
> > good idea to make `org-export-dispatch' more hackeable by beginners...
>
> In any case, we are here now, after the discussion resurfaced.
>
> > For example, someone could have said "can you try this? Copy that
> > function to other file, replace its lines foo and bar by the lines
> > plic and bletch, and use the ideas in these two blog posts to debug
> > and inspect its data structures"... but no, that didn't happen - I've
> > asked lots of technical questions here over the years and never got
> > detailed answers like that, only answers whose technical details _were
> > kept as short as possible_, and whose explanations were much closer to
> > "in English" than to "in Lisp".
>
> I recommend following up on the replies if you find them incomplete.
>
> There are no guarantees that exhaustive detailed replies will be given -
> they take a lot of time to write and are often not necessary.
>
> > A few days ago I added subtitles to my video about "Org for
> > Non-Users". The links are here,
> >
> >   http://angg.twu.net/2021-org-for-non-users.html
> >
> > and some people will prefer to just read this:
> >
> >   http://angg.twu.net/eev-videos/2021-org-for-non-users.vtt
> >   http://angg.twu.net/SUBTITLES/2021-org-for-non-users.lua.html
> >
> > It explains with examples how a "non-user" thinks, and it shows what I
> > mean by "explanations in Lisp".
>
> I get it, but you cannot force me to reply like this. I simply do not
> think this way - when I try to reply to questions on ML, I do it the way
> I can. I cannot adapt the explanation style that is foreign to me.
>
> If you find something in mine (or other's) replies not clear, just ask
> to clarify.

Ok, let me try something else.

Can you send to me - here to the mailing list - a version of
`org-export-dispatch', and also of other functions if needed, in which
the parts that call `read-char-exclusive' are replaced by something
non-blocking?

  Thanks in advance =),
    Eduardo Ochs



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