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Re: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly


From: Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
Subject: Re: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:54:46 +0200
User-agent: mu4e 1.8.9; emacs 28.1

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

> * Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> [2022-10-25 18:06]:
>> > This wish request is related to Emacs EWW and Org mode.
>> >
>> > Please make EWW recognize Org file when served by WWW server. Currently
>> > it does not recognize the MIME type text/x-org and opens the file as
>> > text, it does not invoke the org mode. In my opinion, it should.
>> 
>> This sounds dangerous. Org mode can execute untrusted code, so this
>> could trick people into running untrusted code with the permissions of
>> their Emacs.
>
> I can always do that in Emacs, execute untrusted code. There are no
> trust mechanisms for plethora of Emacs packages and codes distributed
> over Internet. 

All of the Emacs packages have some amount of implicit trust. Even melpa
carefully vets packages nowadays. That’s not the case for some website
you visit.

> That was not my request.
>
> Do you know how to make this work?

If you ask me whether I can make this work safely: This would first
require the introduction of a safe-org-mode which strictly disables all
features that can execute remote code or disguise unsafe operations as
safe ones. If a user then decides to explicitly call M-x org-mode,
that’s their problem.

If you ask me whether I know how to make this work unsafely: It likely
won’t need a lot of elisp reading, but I do not, because I do not look
for it, because if I did, I would not.

I do not want to be the one who caused the systems of eww users to get
breached, or who helped opening that security hole.

Best wishes,
Arne
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