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Re: `org-capture' loads all the files in `org-directory'


From: Noel Errenil
Subject: Re: `org-capture' loads all the files in `org-directory'
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:48:29 +0800

Hi Ihor,

> ...
> Note that you are using %^G, while implies (see org-capture-templates 
> docstring):
>
> %^G         Prompt for tags, with completion on all tags in all agenda files.
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thank you so much for the help. You are absolutely right!

> Only the capture template is actually loaded. However, providing tag
> completion for %^G requires Org to scan all the agenda files for
> possible tags. Hence, agenda files must be opened and examined.

This is an oversight and misunderstanding by me. Really appreciate your
explanation.


> The reason why the capture target buffer and the agenda file buffers are
> not closed is efficiency. Opening all the agenda files may take
> considerable amount of time and hence it is generally better to keep
> them open for future use. We might change it in future or provide an
> option to close the opened files if there is enough interest. Feel free
> to write a feature request - we will judge the number of user responses
> to the request.

Currently, I'm happy with this behavior. I'll learn how to submit a
feature request
anyway in case in the future I feel a need to.

After your first reply earlier, I came to realize that the pop-up
buffer in which I am
able to select a template is indeed some kind of agenda view/mode. This can be
confirmed by looking up the source code. So my original problem indeed had sth
to do with agenda, not `org-capture'.

Then I found my setting of `org-agenda-files' was indeed wrong:

Sth like:
(setq org-agenda-files ("~/projects/org/agenda.org"))
                                     ;; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
empty file at the moment
will actually make the whole ~/projects/org directory as the agenda source,
hence all the files under it will be loaded once agenda function is activated.

I did that, again, because I misunderstood the manual. I should use a
list for agenda files
or a plain text file in which I specify agenda files, one per line.

Hope all the information in this thread will help whoever runs into
the same issue as I did.

Best,
Noel


On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 11:24 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Noel Errenil <errelinaaron@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > ...
> > Then, I fire `org-capture', captur a note and `C-c C-c' to save the captured
> > content.
> >
> > Suddenly all the files under ~/projects/org will be loaded into the buffer
> > list, which confuses me so much. Those that have nothing to do with
> > capturing or capture-templates are loaded into Emacs, which makes
> > little sense to me.
> > ...
> > Currently I have `org-directory' set to `~/projects/org'. My
> > `org-capture' config is as follows:
> > ...
> >    org-default-notes-file (concat org-directory "/notes.org")))
> > ...
> >         ("td" "With Dealines" entry     ; todos->deadline
> >                (file+headline "tasks.org" "Deadlines")
> >                "* TODO %? %^G\nDEADLINE: %T" :kill-buffer t :prepend t)
>
> Note that you are using %^G, while implies (see org-capture-templates 
> docstring):
>
>   %^G         Prompt for tags, with completion on all tags in all agenda 
> files.
>                                                   
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > I just expect that only the capture template will be loaded during capturing
> > and the template buffer should be killed (as config-ed) after capturing.
>
> Only the capture template is actually loaded. However, providing tag
> completion for %^G requires Org to scan all the agenda files for
> possible tags. Hence, agenda files must be opened and examined.
>
> The reason why the capture target buffer and the agenda file buffers are
> not closed is efficiency. Opening all the agenda files may take
> considerable amount of time and hence it is generally better to keep
> them open for future use. We might change it in future or provide an
> option to close the opened files if there is enough interest. Feel free
> to write a feature request - we will judge the number of user responses
> to the request.
>
> > What am I doing wrong? Any advice? Thank you so much in advance.
>
> You may either not use global tag completion (use %^g instead %^G in
> your templates) or advice org-capture to close the opened files.
>
> Best,
> Ihor



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