Re: the GNU bug tracker, use it or have something similar? Gmane might block attachments in bug reports

[Max Nikulin]

On 25/10/2021 21:21, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> org-submit-bug-report sends an email to the org-mode mailing list. It
> turns out, that if you attach a file and later display that message on
> gmane, as I do in order to keep my email traffic in moderate numbers,
> then gmane might block that attachment.

I do not see your attachment on news.gmane.io as well, but it is a rare 
problem. Mostly attachments are received correctly. Moreover, a part of 
your message is truncated. I am unsure whether there is some limit for 
message size or parser was confused by excessive white spaces (unsure 
whether the message was fully conformant). Anyway, size of "current 
state" part tells that it is unlikely *minimal* example that you tested 
with "emacs -Q". Even the part received by gmane has size of almost 300k.

> Now GNU emacs has a bug tracker what can be accessed via debbugs-org and
> there this problem does not appear.
>
> The org mailing list does have a similar bug tracker which is a bit of
> problem with such a workflow.

Attachment is available on
87a6j02qf0.fsf@mat.ucm.es/">https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87a6j02qf0.fsf@mat.ucm.es/
so I do not see any problem. Likely nobody explicitly confirmed your 
bug, so it did not appear on https://updates.orgmode.org/ On the other 
hand, a patch appeared quickly enough, so reasons to complain are 
unclear for me.

> Of course an alternative would be to CC the bug report to the GNU emacs
> list since org mode is also in the GNU emacs tree, but I am not sure
> whether this is a good idea.

I am unsure to which list you are going to send a copy. Emacs-orgmode is 
hosted on gnu.org just as other emacs lists. Besides lists.gnu.org it is 
archived on public inbox instances and these archives were able to parse 
your message. For issues filed through debbugs.gnu.org latency is often 
higher that for ones sent directly to this list.

Are there evidences that it was not a rare case when an attachments from 
a messages generated by org-submit-bug-report was lost by gmane and 
change of workflow is really required?