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Re: Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3


From: Colin Baxter
Subject: Re: Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3ea248 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:36:42 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux)

>>>>> Robert Horn <rjhorn@panix.com> writes:

    > Colin Baxter writes:

    >>>>>>> Robert Horn <rjhorn@panix.com> writes:
    >> 
    >> > Timothy writes:
    >> 
    >> >> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
    >> >> 
    >> >> Maybe this is a good time to start a discussion about moving
    >> >> Org's minimum supported Emacs to 25...?
    >> 
    >> > I checked Red Hat, Centos, Debian, SuSE, and Ubuntu.  They are
    >> all > 25.1 or later in their current distributions.  So that will
    >> > probably not cause too much breakage.
    >> 
    >> > -- Robert Horn rjhorn@alum.mit.edu
    >> 
    >> Debian 9.13 (which is still supported) has emacs-24.

    > Interesting question about LTS.  How far back should we consider
    > when estimating the impact of a change like this?  I was looking
    > at current stable versions to estimate the impact of the change.
    > Lots of users avoid the bleeding edge distribution releases, but
    > most update to track the current stable/LTS releases.  Or they
    > won't complain that it's unfair for org to expect them to update
    > emacs to the current stable/LTS version.

    > Ubuntu, Red Hat, CentOS and SuSE are 25.1 or above for their most
    > recent long term support releases.  Some of these distributions go
    > a lot further with various forms of long term support.  I think
    > Red Hat goes back 8 years for example, and that emacs is really
    > old.

    > It looks like 25.1 is available, but not yet the default for
    > Debian "stretch" (Debian 9.13), which is the "oldstable" for
    > Debian. With Debian backport efforts I don't know if this means
    > months or years.  The web page for Emacs25inStretch has not
    > changed since 2017, so it might never happen.

Debian 9.13 may be old but updates are still made available. While
Debian supports the os-version and therefore by implication emacs-24, I
feel org-mode shouldn't deliberately break that support.



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