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Re: [org-save-all-org-buffers] Saving is not reliable?


From: Mikhail Skorzhisnkii
Subject: Re: [org-save-all-org-buffers] Saving is not reliable?
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 11:16:55 +0100
User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1

Hi, Kyle,

Thank you for finding time to take a look at this. I have experienced data loss once again, so you're right. This is not indirect buffers, i.e. my fix is not working. I was just lucky.

Fortunately I managed to capture the moment in emacs when it happens. It's kind of reproduction scenario. Basically I need to modify buffer from search-type agenda. For example, search for tags and then change TODO state or add a note. Then use `org-save-all-org-buffers`. Function will report that it is done its job and buffers will be marked as non-modified. But in fact they are modified and unsaved.

I can't reproduce this in emacs without my configuration (i.e. only emacs and most recent org-mode). So it must be something that interfere with buffer "modified" state. I guess I need to review every hook related to buffer saving. I think (but unsure) it is start happening when I have start enabling follow-mode in agenda from start up.

For the time being I have applied advice from this stack overflow question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3215866/how-to-force-emacs-to-save-even-if-it-thinks-no-changes-need-to-be-saved

 (defadvice save-buffer (before save-buffer-always activate)
   "always save buffer"
   (set-buffer-modified-p t))

It looks like it helps me. I'll report back to this thread when I find the offender. I guess I'm calling (set-buffer-modified-p nil) somewhere unknowingly.

Mikhail Skorzhinskii

Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:

Mikhail Skorzhisnkii writes:

Hello forum,

I start noticing some time ago that saving org-mode buffers works
unreliably in my setup. Most of the time I am using function
`org-save-all-org-buffers' from core org.

Unreliable in that some Org buffers are left in a modified state?

[...]
Possibly there is something wrong in my customisations. But without a reproduction scenario, I don't see a way to prove it. However, after I made a tiny change to the function, I stopped seeing these problems at
all. Here is the fix I have applied:

,----
| diff --git a/lisp/org.elf b/lisp/org.el
| index df3f377f6..448dc4a88 100644
| --- a/lisp/org.el
| +++ b/lisp/org.el
| @@ -15229,7 +15229,9 @@ The value is a list, with zero or more of the symbols `effort', `appt',
|    "Save all Org buffers without user confirmation."
|    (interactive)
|    (message "Saving all Org buffers...")
| - (save-some-buffers t (lambda () (derived-mode-p 'org-mode)))
| +  (save-some-buffers t (lambda ()
| +                         (and (derived-mode-p 'org-mode)
| +                              (not (buffer-base-buffer)))))
|    (when (featurep 'org-id) (org-id-locations-save))
|    (message "Saving all Org buffers... done"))
`----

My theory was that `save-some-buffers' may work unreliably with indirect buffers, so I've excluded them from the saving. Again, I have tried to prove it by using indirect buffer and saving it instead of base buffer. But it worked without a problem. So even if my theory is correct, bug not reproducing every time. Nevertheless I am having this change already for two weeks and I don't have reproduction of this bug. Previously I've
noticed loosing data every day or so.

Hmm, I may be completely missing something, but for what it's worth, I'd be surprised if indirect buffers are the culprit. When you save an indirect buffer directly, it should just save the base buffer. And in any case, save-some-buffers should skip indirect buffers. Here is the relevant handling from save-some-buffers, with the key line marked:

    (setq files-done
          (map-y-or-n-p
           (lambda (buffer)
             (and (buffer-live-p buffer)
                  (buffer-modified-p buffer)
(not (buffer-base-buffer buffer)) ; <- skip indirect buffers
                  (or
                   (buffer-file-name buffer)
                   (with-current-buffer buffer
                     (or (eq buffer-offer-save 'always)
                         (and pred buffer-offer-save
                              (> (buffer-size) 0)))))
                  (or (not (functionp pred))
(with-current-buffer buffer (funcall pred)))
                  (if arg
                      t
                    (setq queried t)
                    (if (buffer-file-name buffer)
                        (format "Save file %s? "
                                (buffer-file-name buffer))
                      (format "Save buffer %s? "
                              (buffer-name buffer))))))
           (lambda (buffer)
             (with-current-buffer buffer
               (save-buffer)))
           (buffer-list)
           '("buffer" "buffers" "save")
           save-some-buffers-action-alist))


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