Re: Website revamp?

[TEC]

Thanks for the feedback!

Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes: 

> 03.08.2020 12:11, TEC wrote: 
> > To see how orgmode.org currently appears, see 
> > https://i.imgur.com/XPFfBaB.png 
>
> Sorry for negative (and maybe discouraging) feedback. I would 
> not mind if you just skip my complains since I am not a 
> contributor to org-mode. 

Please, share your thoughts!

> Concerning the screenshot, when first impression, that 
> everything is broken and do not worth reading at all, is over, 
> in my opinion, the text makes much more sense than "innovative" 
> marketing stuff got priority on the demo of the new design. I 
> consider the list of tasks, that org mode could help with, is 
> the most important thing to attract new users. It should just be 
> properly formatted. 

Re content for the index page, my current thoughts are:
- Some sort of informative introductory paragraph
- List of most common applications of org - Note latest version, 
and when it was released

I also have a styled equivalent of the screenshot on the current 
site.

These things just need to move from my mind, to the page :)

Do let me know if you have any other specific ideas on content for 
the index.

> It seems that new variant is too mobile-centric. On a 24in 
> monitor I expect something more than just a banner. There is 
> plenty of room for brief news related to new releases, for more 
> details of most important features (on the other hand I am 
> against arbitrary scaled screenshots with excessively huge 
> characters in comparison to surrounded text), etc. I am aware 
> that my taste is against of modern design trends. 

If you have specific suggestions on how I could smoothly work in a 
better design for the index on the desktop, I'd love to hear them. 
If you could pair any such suggestions with reference to my 
earlier thoughts* on the purpose of each page that will make it 
easier to glimpse your thought process, and how it compares to my 
own.

\* see email in reply to Colin sent on Mon 03 Aug 07:53 UTC

> A couple of remarks unrelated to new look but should be 
> addressed in the case of rework. 
>
> I am surprised that Emacs is explicitly mentioned only in html 
> head title. The relation should be clear for new visitors. 

That's:
a) been removed from the head title. I couldn't find a browser 
which would 
   display the whole thing without chopping it off the last 
   ~third 
b) going to be mentioned prominently in the body, at least in my 
current thoughts

> As to installation, I believe that org-mode bundled with Emacs 
> is more than enough for first try. It is a shorter path to 
> become familiar with most prominent features just to start 
> editing of an .org file (or to download a prepared demo .org). 
> Getting the latest stable version could be a next step for the 
> hooked users.

Are you saying that you find the current mention of Emacs in the 
instillation page works well? I'm currently just linking to Emacs. 
Looking at the page though, I think I should make a more prominent 
action to download Emacs.

I love the idea of a demo org file! If anyone would like to help 
out with creating one by sending in contenders / snippets that 
would be brilliant!

Even better - having two or three different demo files based on the use case of
the new user - e.g. programmer, author, organisation - or something like that.