Re: Bug or not a bug? dot expansion in ob-shell

[Tom Gillespie]

Hi Jack,
    As with many things in emacs, I sometimes feel like I'm loosing my
mind, or loosing track of just exactly what variables are set or not
set, but I could swear that for at least the past year when running
#+begin_src bash blocks with C-c C-c and no :results header set the
results are the stdout. This is also true for sh and shell language
options. Maybe that was a recent change, but I just tested with emacs
-q and (org-version) -> 9.1.9 and am getting stdout (as seen below). I
have included the results of org-submit-bug-report for reference.
Best,
Tom

#+begin_src bash
pip install --user pudb
#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
| Requirement | already | satisfied: | pudb          | in |
/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages | (2018.1) |       |         |
| Requirement | already | satisfied: | urwid>=1.1.1  | in |
/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages | (from    | pudb) | (2.1.0) |
| Requirement | already | satisfied: | pygments>=1.0 | in |
/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages | (from    | pudb) | (2.5.2) |


Subject: Bug: test [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @
/usr/share/emacs/26.3/lisp/org/)]

Emacs  : GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
 of 2019-10-09
Package: Org mode version 9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @
/usr/share/emacs/26.3/lisp/org/)

current state:
==============
(setq
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
             org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
 org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
 org-html-format-inlinetask-function
'org-html-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-odt-format-headline-function 'org-odt-format-headline-default-function
 org-ascii-format-inlinetask-function 'org-ascii-format-inlinetask-default
 org-mode-hook '(#[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
           [add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append
            local]
           5]
         #[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
           [add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-babel-show-result-all
            append local]
           5]
         org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
 org-odt-format-drawer-function #[514 "\207" [] 3 "\n\n(fn NAME CONTENTS)"]
 org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-bibtex-headline-format-function #[257 "\300 \236A\207" [:title] 3
"\n\n(fn ENTRY)"]
 org-latex-format-drawer-function #[514 "\207" [] 3 "\n\n(fn _ CONTENTS)"]
 org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe
              org-babel-header-arg-expand)
 org-ascii-format-drawer-function #[771 " \207" [] 4 "\n\n(fn NAME
CONTENTS WIDTH)"]
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
          org-cycle-show-empty-lines
          org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-activate
              org-babel-speed-command-activate)
 org-odt-format-inlinetask-function 'org-odt-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-link-parameters '(("id" :follow org-id-open)
               ("rmail" :follow org-rmail-open :store
            org-rmail-store-link)
               ("mhe" :follow org-mhe-open :store org-mhe-store-link)
               ("irc" :follow org-irc-visit :store org-irc-store-link)
               ("info" :follow org-info-open :export org-info-export
            :store org-info-store-link)
               ("gnus" :follow org-gnus-open :store
            org-gnus-store-link)
               ("docview" :follow org-docview-open :export
            org-docview-export :store org-docview-store-link)
               ("bibtex" :follow org-bibtex-open :store
            org-bibtex-store-link)
               ("bbdb" :follow org-bbdb-open :export org-bbdb-export
            :complete org-bbdb-complete-link :store
            org-bbdb-store-link)
               ("w3m" :store org-w3m-store-link) ("file+sys")
               ("file+emacs") ("doi" :follow org--open-doi-link)
               ("elisp" :follow org--open-elisp-link)
               ("file" :complete org-file-complete-link)
               ("ftp" :follow
            (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "ftp:" path))))
               ("help" :follow org--open-help-link)
               ("http" :follow
            (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "http:" path))))
               ("https" :follow
            (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "https:" path))))
               ("mailto" :follow
            (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "mailto:"; path))))
               ("news" :follow
            (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "news:"; path))))
               ("shell" :follow org--open-shell-link))
 org-latex-format-headline-function 'org-latex-format-headline-default-function
 org-latex-format-inlinetask-function
'org-latex-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-html-format-drawer-function #[514 "\207" [] 3 "\n\n(fn NAME CONTENTS)"]
 org-html-format-headline-function 'org-html-format-headline-default-function
 )

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 8:11 PM Jack Kamm <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Tom Gillespie <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > First a disclosure, I would be very unhappy if option 1 were selected,
> > it would require me to make a whole bunch of changes and try to find
> > an option to revert to the current default behavior.
>
> Wasn't option 1 already the default behavior, until the changes made
> earlier this month due to this thread? That is the behavior I get when I
> check out earlier commits, or maint.
>
> > The principle is that block defaults for results should default to the
> > value that the language itself makes the most accessible.
>
> I agree that this would be a good principle.
>
> My understanding is that in 9.3 and earlier, the default was generally
> ":results value", but now due to this thread we are adding an exception
> for ob-shell.
>
> It sounds like after 9.4 is released, there will be a general survey of
> how org-babel behaves across languages, after which there will be a
> discussion of sensible default behavior.