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Re: [O] [RFC] Document level property drawer


From: Marco Wahl
Subject: Re: [O] [RFC] Document level property drawer
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 13:05:42 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)

Adam Porter <address@hidden> writes:

> Marco Wahl <address@hidden> writes:

>> You say the visibility is better for the #+-property keywords.  I say
>> they can occur _anywhere_ in the file and even in some drawers.  See
>> above "#+CATEGORY:  cat-doc-prop-keyword-2".
>>
>> Further you say 
>>
>>>>> - However, it seems to me that the simplest, most natural protocol would
>>>>>   be for later declarations to override earlier ones.
>>
>> This means that cat-doc-prop-keyword-2 from the example defines the
>> CATEGORY property which at least I find not so natural.  And I already
>> stated what I find natural.

> Org may allow #+KEYWORD: lines to appear anywhere in a file, including
> in arbitrary drawers, but that's up to the user.  If the user chooses to
> hide them in drawers, it's his responsibility.
>
> AFAICT that's not a common or generally recommended thing to do.  Most
> Org files have such lines at the top of the file, and some under a
> heading at the bottom of the file with other settings.  Such lines don't
> need to be in drawers, and this proposal wouldn't change that.
>
> So I think it would be confusing if settings in a drawer at the top of
> the file were to absolutely override settings outside of drawers (which
> would mean that hidden settings could override plainly visible ones).
> The most natural protocol would be like written language: later
> declarations override earlier ones.

Hi Adam,

Just I got the idea that for a good part this discussion is about
personal preferences.  For me for example it's not a big deal if a
property is placed within a drawer or not.  I don't care much about the
"visibility" of a property setting.  Of course I respect other views
about this.

What I really find irritating is that "Org ... allows #+KEYWORD: lines
to appear anywhere in a file" (This sentence is from you) with the
meaning that the settings apply to the whole file.  I think this
interpretation of #+KEYWORD: lines is unnecessary and confusing.

BTW I find it completely natural that--let's for simplicity assume an
Org file without any drawers--#+KEYWORD: settings that appear later in
a file replace earlier settings.


Best regards,
-- 
Marco




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