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Re: [O] minimal testing setup for pdf export?

From: Jude DaShiell
Subject: Re: [O] minimal testing setup for pdf export?
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:59:58 -0400

Okay, orgmode pdf files will be inaccessible for the foreseeable future.
 Has anyone had any luck extracting text however mangled from one of
these with pdftotext or similar tools?  If that's not possible that will
be another good thing to know.

On Sat, 31 Aug 2019, Tim Cross wrote:

> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:31:32
> From: Tim Cross <address@hidden>
> To: address@hidden
> Cc: Nick Dokos <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [O] minimal testing setup for pdf export?
> I think the main thing which needs to be in the PDF is structure
> 'tagging'. Unfortunately, making truly accessible PDFs is the one area
> I've found where the 'TeX suite is weak. I was tracking some discussions
> about this on  the various TeX and Latex lists and it seems that to add
> the necessary information needed to create accessible PDFs requires a
> major redesign of TeX internals.
> It has been a while since I looked at this, but I do believe there are
> some add-on latex packages which can help a bit, but creating PDFs which
> meet minimal accessibility requirement tests is currently not possible.
> IIRC the speech-disabling feature is not part of the PDF spec. This is
> somethinhg added by Adobe (along with other DRM support). This is no
> 'switch' so to speak in plain PDF documents as the PDF spec predates
> considerations like TTS or even accessibility.
> Jude DaShiell <address@hidden> writes:
> > most of the books sold on google play books are speech-disabled by
> > publishers.  The adobe accessibility site has speech-enabled
> > accessibility examples.  I think it's a matter of a single control that
> > is either enabled or disabled.  Oh, the IRS has speech-enabled pdf tax
> > forms anyone can download.  I nearly forgot about that one.  The 1099R
> > form is a short one so it ought to be pretty quick to find the setting
> > in one of those forms.
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Aug 2019, Nick Dokos wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 16:07:49
> >> From: Nick Dokos <address@hidden>
> >> To: address@hidden
> >> Subject: Re: [O] minimal testing setup for pdf export?
> >>
> >> Jude DaShiell <address@hidden> writes:
> >>
> >> > It would be helpful if when pdf get exported from orgmode they have
> >> > speech enabled by default.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not sure that org mode can do anything about, since it's LaTeX that 
> >> produces
> >> the PDF. That said, I'm not sure what needs to be done: what's the 
> >> difference
> >> between a speech-enabled PDF and a non-speech-enabled one?
> >>
> >>


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