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Re: [O] [RFC] Change visibility for bracket links


From: Thomas S. Dye
Subject: Re: [O] [RFC] Change visibility for bracket links
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:24:07 -1000
User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 24.5.1

Aloha Joost,

Joost Kremers writes:

> On Mon, Oct 10 2016, Clément Pit--Claudel wrote:
>> Agreed.  I'd be curious to get feedback from users of 
>> prettify-symbols-mode, too.  And to know whether your objections 
>> apply as strongly to just revealing the brackets when the point 
>> is on them (not when they are being moused over) 
>
> I don't use prettify-symbols-mode, but I am a fairly heavy user of 
> AUCTeX's TeX-fold-mode, which hides all sorts of LaTeX code (and 
> can be customised to hide even more in quite sophisticated ways). 
> For example, it shows
>
>     This is some \textit{emphasised} text.
>
> as 
>
>     This is some emphasised text.
>
> with the word "emphasised" in a different colour (to indicate that 
> it's been folded) and with whatever fontification the argument of 
> the \textit macro gets (italicised by default). 
>
> Now, TeX-fold-mode has the behaviour you mention: as soon as you 
> move point (not the mouse cursor) "into" some folded text, it gets 
> unfolded (with | indicating point):
>
>     This is some |\textit{emphasised} text.
>
> with the part "\textit{emphasised}" highlighted to indicate that 
> it's actuall folded.
>
> Personally, I'm a *big* fan of this behaviour, even though I use 
> visual-line-mode in my LaTeX buffers, which means that when text 
> is temporarily unfolded, the paragraph may rewrap (and wrap back 
> when point leaves the unfolded text causing it to be folded 
> again). Since there is visual feedback (from the font colour) that 
> some word or stretch of text is folded, I know that the text will 
> unfold when I move point into it, so I don't find it distracting. 
> The fact that the rest of the paragraph may rewrap is also not an 
> issue for me, because I'm not actually focussing on that part of 
> the text.
>
> Personally, I've also always found it annoying in Org that editing 
> around links (or emphasis etc. with `org-hide-emphasis-markers' 
> set to t) is unpredictable and I never really understood why 
> functionality similar to TeX-fold-mode hadn't been implemented. I 
> thinks it's a very straightforward and easy to understand method 
> for indicating which character point is actually on, making 
> editing much more comfortable.
>
> Just my €0.02, of course.

Agreed.  Also, mousing over the folded text shows the unfolded text in
the minibuffer.

All the best,
Tom

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Thomas S. Dye
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