Re: [O] Bug: keys C-c C-c do not update in Emacs app, but in Terminal emacs

[Maria Shinoto]

I appreciate your help! It seems, the problem is a bit more difficult...

Before accessing this mailing list, I have already done some 
installations and updates (whole emacs, org mode packages etc.), but all 
to the same result. I get along with R, Latex, Pandoc etc., in console 
mode or GUI, yet I could solve all problems, even with mixed languages 
like German, Japanese, English and Korean. But emacs, after 10 days, 
still is opaque.

Now I tried another new installation of Emacs GUI on another Mac (both 
Macs run El Capitan, 10.12), but I get another strange behaviour with 
this unmodified version.


Now, I will explain the behaviour on my Macbook.


My test buffer (file, in org mode) looks like this:

*****
* A test todo [/]
  [X] checkbox
  [ ] another checkbox
*****

Two things I observe:

**1** As far as I understand, the counter in the headline should update 
with C-c C-c. Instead, I am asked to enter a tag, and this tag will then 
be set.

**2** When I try C-c C-c with the cursor on the checkbox line, it should 
change the state of the line and that of the counter -- if I understand 
correctly. But I get another message "C-c C-c can do nothing useful at 
this location."

When asking for the org-version (M-x org-version), I get the same answer 
like on my iMac:

*****
Org-mode version 8.2.10 (release_8.2.10 @ 
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/)
*****

My file path looks a bit better on the new installation without org-mode 
update:

*****
("/Library/Application Support/Emacs/24.5/site-lisp"
"/Library/Application Support/Emacs/site-lisp"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/vc"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/url"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/textmodes"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/play"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/nxml"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/net"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/mh-e"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/mail"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/leim"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/language"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/international"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/gnus"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/eshell"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/erc"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emulation"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emacs-parallel"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emacs-lisp"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/cedet"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calendar"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calc"
"/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/obsolete")
*****


I hope that someone can guide me to a solution, otherwise Emacs looks 
inaccessible for me... :(

Best,
Maria



Am 14.08.16 um 11:17 schrieb Thomas S. Dye:
> I'm not an expert, but instead of trying to adjust the initialization
> files I'd re-install Org mode following the instructions here:
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-via-elpa.
>
> hth,
> Tom
>
> Maria Shinoto writes:
>
> > So should I delete the line
> >
> >      /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org
> >
> > and leave the one on top
> >
> >      /Users/mariashinoto/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160808/
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Maria
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 14.08.16 um 10:35 schrieb Thomas S. Dye:
> > > According to the web site, you should see the path to the latest
> > > Org mode.  Yours points to the Org mode that ships with Emacs.  If
> > > you've updated Org mode independently of Emacs, then Emacs isn't finding
> > > the latest Org mode correctly.
> > >
> > > hth,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > Maria Shinoto writes:
> > >
> > > > and again...
> > > >
> > > > I got the load-path variable with C-h v load-path RET, it looks like this:
> > > >
> > > > ********
> > > > load-path is a variable defined in `C source code'.
> > > > Its value is
> > > > ("/Users/mariashinoto/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160808/"
> > > > "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org" "/Library/Application
> > > > Support/Emacs/24.5/site-lisp" "/Library/Application
> > > > Support/Emacs/site-lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/vc"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/url"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/textmodes"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/play"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org"
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/nxml"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/net"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/mh-e"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/mail"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/leim"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/language"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/international"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/gnus"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/eshell"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/erc"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emulation"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emacs-parallel"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emacs-lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/cedet"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calendar"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calc"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/obsolete")
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable.
> > > >
> > > > Documentation:
> > > > List of directories to search for files to load.
> > > > Each element is a string (directory name) or nil (meaning
> > > > `default-directory').
> > > > Initialized during startup as described in Info node `(elisp)Library
> > > > Search'.
> > > > *****
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In my beloved BBEdit, I created this list:
> > > >
> > > > *****
> > > > ("/Users/mariashinoto/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160808/"
> > > > "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org"
> > > > "/Library/Application Support/Emacs/24.5/site-lisp"
> > > > "/Library/Application Support/Emacs/site-lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/vc"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/url"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/textmodes"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/play"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/nxml"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/net"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/mh-e"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/mail"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/leim"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/language"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/international"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/gnus"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/eshell"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/erc"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emulation"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emacs-parallel"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/emacs-lisp"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/cedet"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calendar"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calc"
> > > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/obsolete")
> > > > ******
> > > >
> > > > So, another /org path is there. Could this be the problem, or anything else?
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to answers and getting to grips with emacs and org-mode,
> > > >
> > > > Maria
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 14.08.16 um 09:14 schrieb Maria Shinoto:
> > > > > Aloha again,
> > > > >
> > > > > now I checked as far as I could.
> > > > >
> > > > > I get this response to "M-x org-version":
> > > > >
> > > > >     Org-mode version 8.2.10 (release_8.2.10 @
> > > > > /Users/mariashinoto/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160808/)
> > > > >
> > > > > This should be OK according to the FAQ.
> > > > >
> > > > > Next step would be to go through the output of "list-load-path-shadows"
> > > > > according to the FAQ. But: What is it, how can I get there, how can I
> > > > > modify, what do I have to look for?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help,
> > > > > Maria
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 14.08.16 um 08:58 schrieb Thomas S. Dye:
> > > > > > Aloha Maria,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I press Ctrl-h v and type org-planning-line-re <RET>, I get this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ,------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > | org-planning-line-re is a variable defined in `org.el'.
> > > > > > | Its value is "^[        ]*\\(\\(?:CLOSED\\|DEADLINE\\|SCHEDULED\\):\\)"
> > > > > > |
> > > > > > |   This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable.
> > > > > > |
> > > > > > | Documentation:
> > > > > > | Matches a line with planning info.
> > > > > > | Matched keyword is in group 1.
> > > > > > `------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not an expert, but I think your installation might be mixed, which
> > > > > > sometimes happens installing Org mode from ELPA.  See
> > > > > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mixed-install.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hth,
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maria Shinoto writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your help、I tried the options, but CUA Keys were not
> > > > > > > selected. There is nothing about CUA keys in my .emacs file either.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now I put on the Debugger -- unfortunately, I do not know anything about
> > > > > > > elisp.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I set the cursor on a list item line with checkbox marked "X" and typed
> > > > > > > C-c C-c, getting the typical message:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Symbol's value as variable is void: org-planning-line-re"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is the message I got in the Debugger, I hope this gives a hint to
> > > > > > > my problem:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***************************
> > > > > > > > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable org-planning-line-re)
> > > > > > > > >   org-element--current-element(330 element planning nil)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > >     \n" beginning-of-line throw exit :parent re-search-backward
> > > > > > > > > :contents-begin
> > > > > > >    :end outline-next-heading input-pending-p time-less-p current-time
> > > > > > > interrupt org-element--current-element
> > > > > > > :structure org-add-props plist-put org-element--cache-put plain-text eql
> > > > > > > headline section inlinetask
> > > > > > > plain-list item property-drawer node-property table table-row
> > > > > > > :contents-end (plain-list table) ...] 9)
> > > > > > > > >   org-element--parse-to(142)
> > > > > > > > >   org-element-at-point()
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    [next restriction object-data completep objects parent
> > > > > > > org-element--object-lex throw exit
> > > > > > > :end get-text-property 0 plist-get nil :begin found :parent
> > > > > > > org-add-props plist-put t
> > > > > > > element property cache-limit pos object --dolist-tail-- value v] 6)
> > > > > > > :begin get-text-property 0
> > > > > > > plist-get throw exit :end :contents-begin :contents-end (32 9) (32 9)
> > > > > > > plain-text property pos
> > > > > > > last cend cbeg end org-element-object-restrictions restriction] 7)
> > > > > > > org-element--cache-put
> > > > > > > org-element--affiliated-re org-element-parsed-keywords tag
> > > > > > > org-complex-heading-regexp end org-comment-string ...] 7)
> > > > > > > > >   org-element-context()
> > > > > > > > >   org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c(nil)
> > > > > > > > >   call-interactively(org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c nil nil)
> > > > > > > > >   command-execute(org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***************************
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maria
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS I had to delete all byte-code in order to get the message sent.
> > > > > > > Really feel like a beginner...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am 13.08.16 um 19:45 schrieb Axel Kielhorn:
> > > > > > >    >
> > > > > > >    >> Am 13.08.2016 um 09:41 schrieb Maria Shinoto <address@hidden>:
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >> Message-ID:
> > > > > > > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >> Hi,
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >> I am learning Org-mode and Emacs on a Mac, and got everything
> > > > > > > working
> > > > > > >    >> fine, except for the key combination C-c C-c.
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >> C-c C-c should update states in certain contexts, e.g. toggle the
> > > > > > > state of a check box and the counter of tasks finished in the header of
> > > > > > > such a check box list.
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >> In the Emacs UI for Mac (not Aquamac), this key combination
> > > > > > > does not
> > > > > > >    >> work, it is org mode version 8.2.10.
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >> It does work when I call emacs from the terminal though, where
> > > > > > > org-mode version is 4.67c.
> > > > > > >    >>
> > > > > > >    >> Is there something wrong with the newer Org mode versions?
> > > > > > >    >
> > > > > > >    > You probably have „Options | Use CUA Keys“ set in the GUI Version.
> > > > > > >    > This maps C-C, C-X, C-V to copy, cut, paste.
> > > > > > >    >
> > > > > > >    > Since the default is off (nil) you may have activated it somehow,
> > > > > > > maybe an init.el you copied from somewhere?
> > > > > > >    >
> > > > > > >    > I have the same Emacs you have and here everything ist fine.
> > > > > > >    >
> > > > > > >    > Axel
> > > > > > >    >
> > > > > > >    >