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Re: [O] [bug] [babel] babel corrupts undo history


From: Bastien
Subject: Re: [O] [bug] [babel] babel corrupts undo history
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:07:49 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux)

Hi Samuel,

Samuel Wales <address@hidden> writes:

> typical example of last one:
>
> ===
> * bastien
> #+begin_src org
>   bastien
>   ^bastien
> #+end_src
> * bastien
> ===
>
> put point at ^, fill-paragraph, undo.  with undo-tree, at least, the
> buffer will be corrupted.

Not for me.  This has surely to do with undo-tree.

> one thing org sometimes does is try to set buffer-undo-list.  it's
> really for speed imo.  i can't think of any reason why org really
> needs it.  perhaps i am mistaken and there is a really good reason for
> such things, but i suspect it has caused a lot of bugs.

I can safely say this is *never* for speeding things up, it's for
preserving the undo list state.

> in the case of c-c ', i would prefer having the indentation adding
> show up as an undo entry [or whatever would happen if we ripped out
> the undo-related setting].

Unless I misunderstand, the addition of indentation is not manually
done, so it should not be part of the undo list.  

> even when there is not a bug per se, when you edit a source block,
> there is a gap in the undo record.  like nixon's tape gap during
> watergate, it raises questions.  :/

:)

> to me, undo is a low-level feature that should never be buggy or
> surprising.  if it is, then anything that causes those should be
> ripped out, even if it means losing a fancy undo-related feature.

Fully agreed.  Let's raise bugs in this area when you have time
and when the bug can be isolated from other third-part package.
Maybe that's me not being able to reproduce the ones you mention,
but other people can chime in too, if the bug is real.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien



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