Re: [O] We're doing it wrong. [WAS]: Zip utility on Windows for ODT exporter

[Achim Gratz]

Loyall, David writes:
>> Then practically all programs are uncivilized, especially when
>> considering that dynamic libraries are just another form of external
>> executables.
>
> Yes.  But would you grant me that this is done in a more orderly
> fashion?

It may appear that way, but the closer you get to the details the
fuzzier it looks.

>> You'd need an audited system if you want to take it that far, I'm not
>> sure anybody has tried to do this on Windows and is still outside the
>> asylum.  The only practical way seems to deliver the reproducible
>> research as a VM (yes, that has other problems).
>
> Yeah, I've thought about that a little bit.
>
> I heard somebody say the other day that according to some survey, x
> percent of people don't know the difference between a search engine
> and a browser.  Would they know the difference between an application
> and a VM that auto-starts an application?  ...If you just change the
> title bar of Virtualbox to say "Emacs" instead...

Would anyone with an Android phone know that they actually run multiple
instances of some sort of VM?  Do they need to?  Emacs also is a VM when
looked at in the right perspective.  I'd think that people are getting
used to such layers of abstraction by now and shrug it off as long as it
does what they want.

> I wrote ~2200 characters on this subject, just now, but then I stashed
> it away rather than present it here before asking: has this been
> proposed before? What was the outcome?

Not sure what exactly you mean, but if you want to help out CERN with
doing some analysis on their data, they'll have you download a VM and
run their code from inside that without touching the rest of your
system.


Regards,
Achim.
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