Re: [O] Opendocument export causes error

[Torsten Anders]

Dear Jambunathan and others,

Apologies for resending this message, but my email from yesterday seemingly did 
not arrive.

To summarise at first, the results in my 2nd IELM session (at the end of the 
message below) differed clearly from those in your kindly provided template -- 
in several cases symbol-file returned nil instead a path, and for (symbol-file 
'org-macs 'require) it returns a different path that in your template. Does 
that perhaps point towards the problem? 

Here is the full story. Please remember that I cannot not use the OpenDocument 
export, because -- as far as I understood -- (the correct version of) 
"org-compat.el" and "org-odt.el" are not loaded. This is perhaps caused by the 
fact that the Emacs I am using (the latest stable release of Aquamacs, version 
2.4) is based on the rather old GNU Emacs 23.3.50.1. Aquamacs is widely used on 
the Mac platform, so likely I am not the only one with these problems. 

I temporarily fixed my problem by loading the respective libraries manually in 
my ~/.emacs file as below, but as others may also have this problem this is 
probably not the best and certainly not a clean solution.

;; TMP hack to get OpenDocument export working again
(load-library "org-compat.el")
(load-library "org-odt.el")


Anyway, I finally ran the tests you suggested (thanks a lot for detailing 
these!).

> 1. Load Emacs like this.  Adjust the `-L's.  Note also the -Q.
> 
>  emacs --debug-init  -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp  -L ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp -Q

Aquamacs started. Clearly, Aquamacs was not fully loaded (e.g., standard Mac 
short-cuts where not yet defined). Anyway, it output the following message in 
*Messages*

Aquamacs is based on GNU Emacs, a part of the GNU/Linux system. It is Free 
Software: you can improve and redistribute it under the GNU General Public 
License, version 3 or later. Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 
(C) 2011 D. Reitter. No Warranty.
ns-handle-drag-file: Symbol's value as variable is void: 
one-buffer-one-frame-mode

To double check, I confirmed the Emacs version.

GNU Emacs 23.3.50.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.8.0, NS apple-appkit-949.54)
of 2011-10-25 on braeburn.aquamacs.org
Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc.


> 2. M-x load-library RET org-odt RET

Loading org-odt...
Loading /Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org-loaddefs.el (source)...done
Debug (org-odt): Searching for OpenDocument schema files...
Debug (org-odt): Trying /usr/share/emacs/etc/org/schema/... [2 times]
Debug (org-odt): No OpenDocument schema files installed
Debug (org-odt): Searching for OpenDocument styles files...
Debug (org-odt): Trying /usr/share/emacs/etc/org/styles/... [2 times]
Debug (org-odt): Trying /Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/etc/styles/...
Debug (org-odt): Using styles under /Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/etc/styles/
Loading org-odt...done

> 3. M-x ielm RET

> | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-compat 'require)
"/Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org 'require)
"/Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org-exp.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-exp 'require)
"/Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org-lparse.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-lparse 'require)
"/Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org-odt.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-odt 'require)

nil


I restarted Aquamacs and repeated all above except for the previous ielm 
session (just in case, as I do not know whether symbol-file has any side 
effects).

>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-compat 'require)
"/Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org 'require)
"/Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org-exp.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-element 'require)
nil
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-export 'require)
nil
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-e-odt 'require)
nil
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-macs 'require)
"/Users/torsten/emacs/org-mode/lisp/org-exp.elc"

Again, thanks a lot for your help!

Best wishes,
Torsten



On 4 Dec 2012, at 05:33, Jambunathan K wrote:
>> I will go through your detailed list of suggestions a bit
>> later. Thanks a lot again for your help!
> 
> I hope you do revert with your observations on broken setup.  
> 
> In my experience, most users don't :-).
> 
> There is some confusion around the area of macros and autoloads.
> Something is amiss.  Only non-programmers seem to run in to this and it
> has been very difficult to understand what is happening on their setup,
> without their co-operation.
> 
> Here is another suggestion.  A bit easy one though.  This will be
> archived and will serve as a written hint to debug macro/autoload
> issues.  
> 
> When the err happens,
> 
> 1. Load Emacs like this.  Adjust the `-L's.  Note also the -Q.
> 
>  emacs --debug-init  -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp  -L
>  ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp -Q
> 
> 2. M-x load-library RET org-odt RET
> 
> 3. M-x ielm RET
> 
>  Here is a sample session both for org-odt and org-e-odt.  Sample
>  illustrates the sequence of events that led org-compat.el to be
>  loaded.
> 
>  The sequence below is courtesy this suggestion/thread:
>   http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2012-11/msg00227.html
> 
> 
>  So the load chain is:
>    org-compat <= org <= org-exp <= org-lparse <= org-odt
> 
>   ,----
>   | *** Welcome to IELM ***  Type (describe-mode) for help.
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-compat 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/lisp/org.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/lisp/org-exp.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-exp 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/lisp/org-lparse.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-lparse 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/lisp/org-odt.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-odt 'require)
>   | nil
>   `----
> 
>  So the load chain is:
>    org-compat <= org <= org-element <= org-export <= org-e-odt
> 
>   ,----
>   | *** Welcome to IELM ***  Type (describe-mode) for help.
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-compat 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/lisp/org.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/lisp/org-element.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-element 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp/org-export.el"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-export 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp/org-e-odt.elc"
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-e-odt 'require)
>   | nil
>   | ELISP> (symbol-file 'org-macs 'require)
>   | "/home/kjambunathan/src/org-mode/lisp/org.elc"
>   `----
> 
> ps: I hope I am invoking `symbol-file' properly.
> 
> --

--
Dr Torsten Anders
Course Leader, Music Technology
University of Bedfordshire
Park Square, Room A315
http://www.torsten-anders.de