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Re: [O] Bug: org-capture Does not take user to any new buffer


From: Nick Dokos
Subject: Re: [O] Bug: org-capture Does not take user to any new buffer
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:35:40 -0400

Mike Fitzgerald <address@hidden> wrote:

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> 
> Took the suggestion to run edebug.
> A couple of observations:
> 
> 1) CAPTURE-journal buffer opens around line 485 but is is killed shortly
> after
> without the user (me) doing anything (just spacebar to step thru the code)
> 
>          (if (and (buffer-base-buffer (current-buffer))
>               (string-match "\\`CAPTURE-" (buffer-name)))
>          (kill-buffer (current-buffer))) ;killed here
> 
> 2) Then later
> The defen stops around line 491 of org-capture.el
>          (error "Capture template `%s': %s"
>             (org-capture-get :key)
>             (nth 1 error))))
> 
> Any insight?
> 

Can you please do M-x toggle-debug-on-error and run it? I hope that that
will generate a backtrace: if so, please post it here.

Are you installing org from the git repository or is this a bundled
version?  Please do C-u M-x org-version RET when you are composing mail,
so that the version will be incorporated into the mail message.

If you are installing from git, it might be worth it to just clean up
everything and try again from scratch, noting any problems that
arise. This might be quicker and easier than debugging a broken install.

Nick

> Thanks
> 
> Mike
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Mike Fitzgerald <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > This part works as described:
> >
> > "start capture, I get another window where
> > I'm presented with an "*Org Select*" buffer that offers me the available
> > choices"
> >
> > However, this part does not work as expected:
> > "when I select one of those I select one of those, I get a
> > "CAPTURE-foo.org" buffer"
> >
> > I would expect:
> > A) new buffer would be created
> > and
> > B) EMACS would switch to it
> > and
> > C) Some message with value to the user
> >
> > B and C do not happen.  A happens but I need to manually switch to it
> >
> > I get a message that has little value:
> >     "Capture template `j': org-called-interactively-p"
> >
> > I have never used the working version of capture (this is it), but I have
> > used
> > remember a little and seem to recall it gives a message something
> > like "C-c C-c" to finish.  I don't get any thing like this.
> >
> > This makes me think that a defun stopped somewhere that it was
> > non designed to.
> >
> > The buffer that is created is and I an able to switch to is journal.org.
> > This does not seem like a temp buffer, rather it seems like the final
> > destination.
> >
> > Whatever defun sends "Capture template `j': org-called-interactively-p"
> > seems to have stopped abnormally.
> >
> > This is my org setup near the top of my .emacs
> >
> > (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/org/org-7.8.11/contrib/lisp/")
> > (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/org/org-7.8.11/lisp/")
> > (require 'org-install)
> > (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org$" . org-mode))
> > (define-key global-map "\C-cl" 'org-store-link)
> > (define-key global-map "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
> > (setq org-log-done t)
> >
> > (setq org-capture-templates
> >
> >       '(("t" "Todo" entry (file+headline "~/org/gtd.org" "Tasks")
> >              "* TODO %?\n  %i\n  %a")
> >         ("j" "Journal" entry (file+datetree "~/org/journal.org")
> >              "* %?\nEntered on %U\n  %i\n  %a")))
> >
> > ;org-capture binding
> > ;(global-set-key "\C-c-c" 'org-capture)
> > (global-set-key [(control c) (c)] 'org-capture)
> >
> >
> > Does this look OK?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Nick Dokos <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike Fitzgerald <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>
> >> > To duplicate:
> >> >
> >>
> >> I haven't tried specifically to duplicate your setup but org-capture
> >> seems to work fine here.
> >>
> >> > 1) Run org-capture with C-c c
> >> > 2) User is Promoted with the two templates expected
> >> > (copied the templates from the org-mode site)
> >> >
> >> > 3) Enter j for journal
> >> > 4) Expect switch to new buffer
> >> > 5) No switch occurs
> >>
> >> So what happens instead? If I start capture, I get another window where
> >> I'm presented with an "*Org Select*" buffer that offers me the available
> >> choices and when I select one of those, I get a "CAPTURE-foo.org" buffer
> >> for some value of "foo".  This is actually an indirect buffer and the
> >> text should be inserted into the target location already, so you can
> >> look at ~/org/journal.org (or whatever) and see that it contains the
> >> partial entry just started.  See the description of org-capture: C-h f
> >> org-capture RET.
> >>
> >> If I were you, I'd probably use edebug to step through the org-capture
> >> function (and I'd forget about byte compiling anything until whatever
> >> problem you have is identified and solved).
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> > Note that journal.org is open, but I need to switch to it
> >> >
> >> > I expected EMACS to switch to a new buffer after choosing
> >> > the template.
> >> >
> >> > Running GNU EMACS 23.3 on Win7
> >> >
> >> > Org mode update byte compiled by hand (without make) using
> >> >
> >> >    (defun my/compile-org(&optional directory)
> >> >      "Compile all *.el files that come with org-mode."
> >> >      (interactive)
> >> >    ;Found on a org-mode related page.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
> >> > what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See
> >> >
> >> >      http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
> >> >
> >> > Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
> >> >  of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO
> >> > Package: Org-mode version 7.8.11
> >> >
> >> > current state:
> >> > ==============
> >> > (setq
> >> >  org-log-done 'time
> >> >  org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook
> >> '(org-beamer-after-initial-vars)
> >> >  org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook
> >> org-babel-speed-command-hook)
> >> >  org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
> >> >  org-capture-templates '(("t" "Todo" entry (file+headline "~/org/
> >> gtd.org" "Tasks")
> >> >               "* TODO %?\n  %i\n  %a")
> >> >              ("j" "Journal" entry (file+datetree "~/org/journal.org")
> >> >               "* %?\nEntered on %U\n  %i\n  %a")
> >> >              )
> >> >  org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
> >> >  org-export-latex-format-toc-function
> >> 'org-export-latex-format-toc-default
> >> >  org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe
> >> org-src-native-tab-command-maybe
> >> >               org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe)
> >> >  org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
> >> org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
> >> >  org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
> >> >  org-export-first-hook '(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)
> >> >  org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
> >> >  org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
> >> >  org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
> >> org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
> >> >           org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
> >> >  org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook
> >> '(org-remove-file-link-modifiers)
> >> >  org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
> >> >            [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all
> >> append local] 5]
> >> >          #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
> >> >            [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook
> >> org-babel-show-result-all append local] 5]
> >> >          org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
> >> >  org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point
> >> org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
> >> >  org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
> >> >  org-export-interblocks '((src org-babel-exp-non-block-elements))
> >> >  org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
> >> >  org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
> >> >  org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook
> >> '(org-beamer-select-beamer-code)
> >> >  org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header
> >> org-beamer-fix-toc
> >> > org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
> >> >                    org-beamer-place-default-actions-for-lists)
> >> >  org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
> >> >  org-export-blocks '((src org-babel-exp-src-block nil)
> >> >              (export-comment org-export-blocks-format-comment t)
> >> >              (ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa nil) (dot
> >> org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))
> >> >  )
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >> > Alternatives:
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
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> 
> Took the suggestion to run edebug.<br>A couple of observations:<br><br>1) C=
> APTURE-journal buffer opens around line 485 but is is killed shortly after<=
> br>without the user (me) doing anything (just spacebar to step thru the cod=
> e)<br>
> <br>=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 (if (and (buffer-base-buffer (current-buffer))<b=
> r>=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (string-match &quot;\\`CAPTURE-&quot;=
>  (buffer-name)))<br>=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0(kill-buffer (current-buffer))) =
> ;killed here<br><br>2) Then later<br>The defen stops around line 491 of org=
> -capture.el<br>
> =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 (error &quot;Capture template `%s&#39;: %s&quot;<br>=
> =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 (org-capture-get :key)<br>=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=
>  =A0=A0=A0 (nth 1 error))))<br><br>Any insight?<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Mike<b=
> r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Mike Fitzg=
> erald <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:address@hidden"; target=3D=
> "_blank">address@hidden</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div=
>  class=3D"gmail_quote">This part works as described:<div><br>&quot;start ca=
> pture, I get another window where<br>
> 
> I&#39;m presented with an &quot;*Org Select*&quot; buffer that offers me th=
> e available choices&quot; <br><br></div>However, this part does not work as=
>  expected:<br>&quot;when I select one of those I select one of those, I get=
>  a &quot;CAPTURE-foo.org&quot; buffer&quot;<br>
> 
> 
> <br>I would expect: <br>A) new buffer would be created <br>and <br>B) EMACS=
>  would switch to it <br>and<br>C) Some message with value to the user<br><b=
> r>B and C do not happen.=A0 A happens but I need to manually switch to it<b=
> r>
> 
> 
> <br>I get a message that has little value:<br>=A0=A0=A0 &quot;Capture templ=
> ate `j&#39;: org-called-interactively-p&quot;<br><br>I have never used the =
> working version of capture (this is it), but I have used<br>remember a litt=
> le and seem to recall it gives a message something<br>
> 
> 
> like &quot;C-c C-c&quot; to finish.=A0 I don&#39;t get any thing like this.=
> <br><br>This makes me think that a defun stopped somewhere that it was<br>n=
> on designed to.<br><br>The buffer that is created is and I an able to switc=
> h to is <a href=3D"http://journal.org"; target=3D"_blank">journal.org</a>.=
> =A0 <br>
> 
> 
> This does not seem like a temp buffer, rather it seems like the final desti=
> nation.<br><br>Whatever defun sends &quot;Capture template `j&#39;: org-cal=
> led-interactively-p&quot;<br>seems to have stopped abnormally.
> <br><br>This is my org setup near the top of my .emacs<br><br>(add-to-list =
> &#39;load-path &quot;~/.emacs.d/org/org-7.8.11/contrib/lisp/&quot;)<br>(add=
> -to-list &#39;load-path &quot;~/.emacs.d/org/org-7.8.11/lisp/&quot;)<br>
> 
> 
> (require &#39;org-install)<br>(add-to-list &#39;auto-mode-alist &#39;(&quot=
> ;\\.org$&quot; . org-mode))<br>(define-key global-map &quot;\C-cl&quot; &#3=
> 9;org-store-link)<br>(define-key global-map &quot;\C-ca&quot; &#39;org-agen=
> da)<br>
> 
> 
> (setq org-log-done t)<br><br>(setq org-capture-templates<div><br>=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0 &#39;((&quot;t&quot; &quot;Todo&quot; entry (file+headline &quot;~/o=
> rg/<a href=3D"http://gtd.org"; target=3D"_blank">gtd.org</a>&quot; &quot;Tas=
> ks&quot;)<br>
> 
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 &quot;* TODO %?\n=A0 %i\n=A0 %a&quot;)=
> <br>
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (&quot;j&quot; &quot;Journal&quot; entry (file+datetr=
> ee &quot;~/org/<a href=3D"http://journal.org"; target=3D"_blank">journal.org=
> </a>&quot;)<br></div>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 &quot;* %?\nEnter=
> ed on %U\n=A0 %i\n=A0 %a&quot;)))<br><br>
> 
> ;org-capture binding <br>
> ;(global-set-key &quot;\C-c-c&quot; &#39;org-capture)<br>(global-set-key [(=
> control c) (c)] &#39;org-capture)<br><br><br>Does this look OK?<br><br>
> Thanks<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br>Mike <br></font></span><div><di=
> v><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Nick =
> Dokos <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:address@hidden"; target=
> =3D"_blank">address@hidden</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
> 
> 
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Mike Fitzgerald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mikef6=
> address@hidden" target=3D"_blank">address@hidden</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
> <br>
> &gt; To duplicate:<br>
> &gt;<br>
> <br>
> I haven&#39;t tried specifically to duplicate your setup but org-capture<br=
> >
> seems to work fine here.<br>
> <div><br>
> &gt; 1) Run org-capture with C-c c<br>
> &gt; 2) User is Promoted with the two templates expected=A0<br>
> &gt; (copied the templates from the org-mode site)<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; 3) Enter j for journal<br>
> &gt; 4) Expect switch to new buffer<br>
> &gt; 5) No switch occurs<br>
> <br>
> </div>So what happens instead? If I start capture, I get another window whe=
> re<br>
> I&#39;m presented with an &quot;*Org Select*&quot; buffer that offers me th=
> e available<br>
> choices and when I select one of those, I get a &quot;CAPTURE-foo.org&quot;=
>  buffer<br>
> for some value of &quot;foo&quot;. =A0This is actually an indirect buffer a=
> nd the<br>
> text should be inserted into the target location already, so you can<br>
> look at ~/org/<a href=3D"http://journal.org"; target=3D"_blank">journal.org<=
> /a> (or whatever) and see that it contains the<br>
> partial entry just started. =A0See the description of org-capture: C-h f<br=
> >
> org-capture RET.<br>
> <br>
> If I were you, I&#39;d probably use edebug to step through the org-capture<=
> br>
> function (and I&#39;d forget about byte compiling anything until whatever<b=
> r>
> problem you have is identified and solved).<br>
> <br>
> HTH,<br>
> Nick<br>
> <div><div><br>
> &gt; Note that <a href=3D"http://journal.org"; target=3D"_blank">journal.org=
> </a> is open, but I need to switch to it<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; I expected EMACS to switch to a new buffer after choosing<br>
> &gt; the template.<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; Running GNU EMACS 23.3 on Win7<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; Org mode update byte compiled by hand (without make) using<br>
> &gt; =A0<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0 (defun my/compile-org(&amp;optional directory)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0=A0 &quot;Compile all *.el files that come with org-mode.&quo=
> t;<br>
> &gt; =A0 =A0=A0 (interactive)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0 ;Found on a org-mode related page.<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; Thanks<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; Mike<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and=
> <br>
> &gt; what in fact did happen.=A0 You don&#39;t know how to make a good repo=
> rt?=A0 See<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0=A0 <a href=3D"http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedba=
> ck" target=3D"_blank">http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback</a><=
> br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.<br>
> &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
> --<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; Emacs=A0 : GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)<br>
> &gt; =A0of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO<br>
> &gt; Package: Org-mode version 7.8.11<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; current state:<br>
> &gt; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
> &gt; (setq<br>
> &gt; =A0org-log-done &#39;time<br>
> &gt; =A0org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook &#39;(org-beamer-after-ini=
> tial-vars)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-speed-command-hook &#39;(org-speed-command-default-hook org-bab=
> el-speed-command-hook)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-metaup-hook &#39;(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-capture-templates &#39;((&quot;t&quot; &quot;Todo&quot; entry (=
> file+headline &quot;~/org/<a href=3D"http://gtd.org"; target=3D"_blank">gtd.=
> org</a>&quot; &quot;Tasks&quot;)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 &quot;* TODO %?\n=A0 %i\n=A0 %a&quot=
> ;)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0(&quot;j&quot; &quot;Journal&quot; en=
> try (file+datetree &quot;~/org/<a href=3D"http://journal.org"; target=3D"_bl=
> ank">journal.org</a>&quot;)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 &quot;* %?\nEntered on %U\n=A0 %i\n=
> =A0 %a&quot;)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-after-todo-state-change-hook &#39;(org-clock-out-if-current)<br=
> >
> &gt; =A0org-export-latex-format-toc-function &#39;org-export-latex-format-t=
> oc-default<br>
> &gt; =A0org-tab-first-hook &#39;(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe org-src-native=
> -tab-command-maybe<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe=
> )<br>
> &gt; =A0org-src-mode-hook &#39;(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer org-src=
> -mode-configure-edit-buffer)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-confirm-shell-link-function &#39;yes-or-no-p<br>
> &gt; =A0org-export-first-hook &#39;(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)<br=
> >
> &gt; =A0org-agenda-before-write-hook &#39;(org-agenda-add-entry-text)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-babel-pre-tangle-hook &#39;(save-buffer)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-cycle-hook &#39;(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hid=
> e-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)<b=
> r>
> &gt; =A0org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook &#39;(org-remov=
> e-file-link-modifiers)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-mode-hook &#39;(#[nil &quot;\300\301\302\303\304$\207&quot;<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0 [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-sh=
> ow-block-all append local] 5]<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0#[nil &quot;\300\301\302\303\304$\207&quot;<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0 [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-ba=
> bel-show-result-all append local] 5]<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-h=
> ashes)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook &#39;(org-babel-hash-at-point org-babel-exec=
> ute-safely-maybe)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-confirm-elisp-link-function &#39;yes-or-no-p<br>
> &gt; =A0org-export-interblocks &#39;((src org-babel-exp-non-block-elements)=
> )<br>
> &gt; =A0org-clock-out-hook &#39;(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-occur-hook &#39;(org-first-headline-recenter)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook &#39;(org-=
> beamer-select-beamer-code)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-export-latex-final-hook &#39;(org-beamer-amend-header org-beame=
> r-fix-toc<br>
> &gt; org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 org-beamer-place-defa=
> ult-actions-for-lists)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-metadown-hook &#39;(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)<br>
> &gt; =A0org-export-blocks &#39;((src org-babel-exp-src-block nil)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 (export-comment org-export-blocks-for=
> mat-comment t)<br>
> &gt; =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 (ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa=
>  nil) (dot org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))<br>
> &gt; =A0)<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt;<br>
> </div></div>&gt; ----------------------------------------------------<br>
> &gt; Alternatives:<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt; ----------------------------------------------------<br>
> </blockquote></div><br>
> </div></div></div><br>
> </div></div></blockquote></div><br>
> 
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