Re: [O] Using orgmode to take "inline notes" for research

[John Hendy]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Erik Iverson <address@hidden> wrote:
> If you export to HTML, you should be able to export your notes with a CSS
> class to style your notes as differently from the text as you like.

Great idea. Unfortunately, I'm almost entirely a LaTeX -> PDF guy.
Though, if I ever wanted blog interaction, I definitely might look
into this more, though I'm usually just needing pretty "bland" html
code for blogger at that point.

One question... if I were to do this, how would I "signal" that a
certain portion of the text (my notes) should get a different css
applied to them than the rest of the document that they are
interspersed into? Would I have some sort of <div> tag wherever I have
notes?


Thanks,
John

>
> On 04/05/2011 10:32 PM, Eric Schulte wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Interesting use case, I definitely see the utility.  I think that blocks
>> may be an appropriate solution, for example if you enclose your notes in
>> "notes" blocks, then it should be easy to control whether or not they
>> are exported...
>>
>> Using the following code, you can control whether notes enclosed in
>> "notes" blcks will be exported by changing the value of the
>> *export-my-notes* variable, when it is nil your notes will not be
>> exported, when t they will be exported as quoted text.
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>   (defvar *export-my-notes* nil)
>>
>>   (defun org-exp-block-process-notes (body&rest headers)
>>     (if *export-my-notes*
>>         (format "\n#+begin_quote\n%s\n#+end_quote\n" body)
>>         ""))
>>
>>   (org-export-blocks-add-block '(notes org-exp-block-process-notes nil))
>> #+end_src
>>
>> Hope this Helps -- Eric
>>
>> This works for me with the attached Org-mode file.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Hendy<address@hidden>  writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing I really like to use orgmode for is research. Lately,
>>> there's a mass of stuff on-line that I've been reading though and am
>>> about to start reading through a series of articles and had the idea
>>> to yank them into org for "inline notes."
>>>
>>> My current experiment has been:
>>> - wget the website page
>>> - run a custom script of simple sed stuff to get the major stuff
>>> converted (<i>  &  </i>  ->  /,&quote; ->  ", etc.)
>>> - turn things into headlines where applicable
>>> - manually tweak the rest
>>>
>>> What I'd like to do is find some way to take notes in the article and
>>> would like some suggestions from anyone who's done this. On one hand,
>>> I see the idea of keeping a separate headline for notes, and for a
>>> series of articles, my file might look like this:
>>> ,---
>>> | * Article 1
>>> | ** Notes on article 1
>>> | * Article 2
>>> | ** Notes on article 2
>>> `---
>>>
>>> One advantage to this is that I could very easily add :noexport: to my
>>> notes and print off a hard copy of the article if I want it, and it
>>> would also be easy to tag my notes :notes: and then replace-string to
>>> turn the Article :export: into :noexport: and :notes: into :export:.
>>> Then I'd have an easy to print copy of my notes for each article.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I like quoting when I use notes, and could see it
>>> as advantageous to have something like:
>>> ,---
>>> | * Article 1
>>> | It goes along and says x, y, and z.
>>> | --- Me: that's interesting and here are my thoughts.
>>> |
>>> | It continues along saying all kinds of other things and my comments
>>> are interjected whenever I want.
>>> `---
>>>
>>> I think that might be more useful for studying things later, as I get
>>> to see an "annotated" version with my thoughts at the time I read it.
>>> What it *doesn't* allow for is the easy printing of both the article
>>> and the notes separately if I want.
>>>
>>> Would someone suggest a way that I might be able to have the best of
>>> both worlds? Some of my own not-at-all-hashed-out-ideas included:
>>> - using footnotes since org has easy ways to jump from one to another,
>>> but this would be tough when it came to actual footnotes, which there
>>> will definitely be plenty of.
>>>
>>> - highlighting the text I want to quote and then using refile somehow
>>> to send it off to my notes section with my comments. This would be
>>> cool if I could, at the same time, add an org-mode link to and from
>>> the notes and original section, but also if I could turn that link off
>>> when I export to PDF so I don't have hypertext to a non-existent link
>>> if I don't export my notes as well.
>>>
>>> Part of the reason that keeping notes/article separate is that I have
>>> others interested in the articles and, if I need to send them a copy,
>>> I want to get my junk out of there and have the original. I suppose I
>>> could just keep two copies, though?
>>>
>>> I think this idea could be useful to others and actually wouldn't
>>> doubt if someone has an awesome setup for something like this already.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions!
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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