Re: [Orgmode] a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops

[Nick Dokos]

Erik Iverson <address@hidden> wrote:

> That would be my thought, too.  However, it appears that cm-super is
> only "suggested" by texlive-fonts-extra, so in general
> will not get installed with that package, unless you ask for
> suggested packages also. (This is all Debian/Ubuntu by the way).
> 

Right. I was wrong about texlive-fonts-extra: you need to install the
cm-super package to get the cm-super fonts. I am investigating the
various fonts right now and will update the org-dependencies.org file on
Worg later on this week. We can also add a FAQ entry to point back to
org-dependencies - that should take care of the documentation changes,
right?

> Both this system and MikTeX
> offer cm-super as a standalone package, so perhaps just recommending
> that package (cm-super) would suffice?  I confirmed that cm-super is
> not one of the default MikTeX packages in a standard install, so
> Windows users may benefit from this advice, too.

Do windows users use evince? I'd think they mostly go with Acrobat Reader,
in which case they should have no problems with Type3 fonts.

> > The other possible change that Erik identified is the deletion of the
> > t1enc package from the list of packages that org includes in exported
> > LaTeX by default. I haven't tried without it, but it does indeed seem to
> > be an obsolete remnant of times long past.
> 
> I have tried without it.  I was unable to to see any differences between
> using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} and adding the \usepackage{t1enc}
> line. This makes sense given the FAQ answer below.
> 

So getting rid of the \usepackage{t1enc} in org sounds like the right
thing to do (but including it does not hurt, so there is no urgency,
iiuc.)

Nick

>  The TeX FAQ
> > (http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=t1enc ) says:
> >
> > ,----
> > | Why use fontenc rather than t1enc?
> > | | In the very earliest days of LaTeX2e, the only way to use the T1
> > | encoding was t1enc; with the summer 1994 “production” release, the
> > | fontenc package appeared, and provided comprehensive support for use of
> > | the encoding.
> > | | Nevertheless, the t1enc package remains (as part of the LaTeX
> > 2.09
> > | compatibility code), but it does very little: it merely selects font
> > | encoding T1, and leaves to the user the business of generating the
> > | character codes required.
> > | | Generating such character codes could be a simple matter, if the
> > T1
> > | encoding matched any widely-supported encoding standard, since in that
> > | case, one might expect one’s keyboard to generate the character
> > | codes. However, the T1 encoding is a mix of several standard encodings,
> > | and includes code points in areas of the table which standard encodings
> > | specifically exclude, so no T1 keyboards have been (or ever will be)
> > | manufactured.
> > | | By contrast, the fontenc package generates the T1 code points
> > from
> > | ordinary LaTeX commands (e.g., it generates the é character codepoint
> > | from the command \’e). So, unless you have program-generated T1 input,
> > | use \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} rather than \usepackage{t1enc}.
> > `----
> >
> > Nick
> 
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