Re: [Orgmode] Wiki-like creating links on the fly for org

[John Hendy]

I migrated to orgmode from TiddlyWiki and understand the ease of simply writing [[PageName]] during edits.

I don't think, however, that this is all that far from what org already provides with links:

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/org/Handling-links.html

I just tried this out and while admittedly it's not as easy as writing CamelCase, it's pretty straightforward:

- Write along and decide to link somewhere

- C-u C-c C-l

- Minibuffer starts with a relative location to your current working directory, e.g. ~/org/ for me

- Pressing tab brings up a list of possible files in this directory

- Editing the location to point to a different dir would allow for linking elsewhere

- Enter when file name is found (or suggest a brand new .org file that doesn't exist)

- Enter the description

Once the link is created:

- With cursor on it, do C-c C-o to open the existing file or create a blank one if it didn't exist

- C-x C-o to bounce back and forth between buffers or C-c & to close opened link and just return to original file

I'm sure others will chime in with ways to perhaps alter this existing functionality for automated detection, but the system as-is is also pretty nice.

Oh, you can link to specific headlines as well.

- Go to the headline you want and do C-c l

- Go back where you want the link and do C-c C-l + up/down arrows to pull up the stored link

- Enter the description (or press enter to accept the headline title)

That simple.

John

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <address@hidden> wrote:

Would it be hard to create an extension (not sure where, elisp skills
still very limited) that highlights camel-cased words and, when
clicking on it, would create or open a file with the name of the word
+ .org?

For "dynamic" reference data (data you want to keep, and that you want
to keep editing and improving over time) the concept of a wiki (even
if its collaboration aspect is not being used) is perfect, in my
opinion. If you try wikidpad, you'll see how organic and pragmatic it
is, allowing you to just input new data and constructing an overview
tree dynamically. Pretty cool.

Whenever I have time, I will check the algorithm WikiDPad uses to
create the visualization tree (which is also one of its greates
features, in my opinion).

Cheers,

Marcelo.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Russell Adams
<address@hidden> wrote:
> Actually, the idea of CamelCase linking to a headline in the same file
> is an interesting idea, using RadioTarges for external links.
>
> ** MyTopic
>
> ** Another topic
>
> Those people who like MyTopic are totally cool.
>
> Naysayers live in file:~/doc/Woopie.org:NaySayers
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 01:09:00PM -0500, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
>> This doesn't seem to apply to what I want. It only links to org items
>> inside the org file.
>>
>> Thanks for the hint, though!
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Erik Iverson <address@hidden> wrote:
>> > Perhaps I am confused, but have you tried radio targets?
>> >
>> > http://orgmode.org/org.html#Radio-targets
>> >
>> >
>> > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey all!
>> >>
>> >> I used to be an avid user of WikiDPad, and I loved the way it
>> >> automatically (or manually, using [ ]) created links and files to
>> >> these links (CamelCase) for me. The way it provided a visual tree of
>> >> the wiki was also pretty cool.
>> >>
>> >> This was awesome for reference kind of data, to build your own
>> >> knowledge base. I've been trying to test different approaches with
>> >> org, but none of them work as smoothly as it worked for me when using
>> >> wikidpad.
>> >>
>> >> I divide reference data in two main categories: Dynamic and Static.
>> >> Static are the notes and stuff that youl want to keep somewhere and
>> >> that you'll eventually refer to later. Dynamic are the kind of that
>> >> you'll be editing often, but does not fit in any other category
>> >> GTD-wise. It is reference, you want to keep it somewhere, not take
>> >> action on it per se (other than editing it), but you want to expand
>> >> and modify it often.
>> >>
>> >> How difficult would it be to implement a small system that would index
>> >> the files of directory, get the names (camel-case) and automatically
>> >> link to these names if written on an org buffer? My elisp skills are
>> >> very weak as of now.
>> >>
>> >> I know some of you might list a number of points against implementing
>> >> this, but I really loved the way Wikdpad created links on the fly.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Marcelo
>> >>
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