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Re: [Orgmode] Re: diary-remind, and org-agenda, and remember


From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: diary-remind, and org-agenda, and remember
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:49:33 +0200


On Sep 11, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Matt Lundin wrote:

Desmond Rivet <address@hidden> writes:

For example, this will work in an org file (the reminders show up on the
agenda):

* Birthdays
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.

But this will *not* work in an org file (the reminders do *not* show
up):

* Birthdays
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.

I'm using the latest orgmode from the repository.

Anyway, this normally wouldn't be too much of a bother except that I'm experimenting with org-remember to add the dates, and this seems to have
its own problems.

(I was recently having trouble with using '%' signs in the org remember
templates, but this particular problem has been solved.  Thanks!)

For example, when I have this in my dates.org file:

* Birthday
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.

with a remember template that looks like this:

(setq org-remember-templates
   '(
("Birthday" ?b "%\\%(diary-remind '(diary-date %^{Month} %^{Day} t) -%^{Remind days}) %^{Brief Description}%?" "~/pim/gtd/ dates.org" "Birthdays")
    )
  )

then I get this when I finish with C-c C-c:

* Birthdays
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.
** Thu Sep 10 19:06:55 2009 (%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 12 12 t) -12) 12)
  %%(diary-remind '(diary-date  12 12  t) -12) 12


I think org-remember automatically adds a heading for purposes of
filing. Otherwise remember items could easily get lost.

Would something like this work?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq org-remember-templates
    '(
("Birthday" ?b "* %^{Title}\n %\\%(diary-remind '(diary- date %^{Month} %^{Day} t) %^{Remind days}) %^{Brief Description} %?" "~/pim/gtd/dates.org" "Birthdays")
     )
   )
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I'm wondering, though, whether it wouldn't be easier to navigate to the
birthdays heading and simply kill, yank, and edit to create a new
birthday, e.g.,

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
* Birthday
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 3 5 t) -14) George's birthday.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Adding George's birthday just took me only a few seconds.

Good point.  How often during a day do you hear about a new birthday
you need to add?  Remember is really for repetitive stuff one
does all the time.  Setting up a remember template for this
tasks takes probably more time than it will ever save you.

Desmond, if you insist:  Use a separate file for these, and use
the symbol `bottom' as the headline specification.

- Carsten





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