[Orgmode] Re: Filtering for effort in org-agenda

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 31, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
> > > I was looking for a way to select tasks with no effort so I could
> > > define
> > > an effort before working on them.
> > >
> > > I'd like to retain the ability to find tasks with no effort easily.
> > > There's probably a better solution that the one I came up with.
> >
> > Are you doing this now using filtering for effort, or a property
> > search for Effort?
>
> I'm using filtering for effort.
>
> I'm doing this from the agenda currently - getting a list of todo  
> tasks,
> limiting to tasks with tag NEXT and then further limiting it to effort
> times <0 using the standard agenda effort filter
>
>
>          List of all TODO entries (excluding dated items)
>         /   Limit to NEXT tagged tasks
>        /   /     Limit to effort <= 0
>       /   /     /
> C-c a t / N / + 1

You are now using "1" and have your first effort etimate set to zero  
minutes.
I guess we could make "0" a special selection, not for the 10th effort  
step, but for no effort defined.  Would that make sense?

- Carsten



> -Bernt
>
> > - Carsten
> >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > commit dc438851021ba340bbff3462671e2b142ff6bdbf
> > > Author: Carsten Dominik <address@hidden>
> > > Date:   Tue Nov 11 06:56:32 2008 +0100
> > >
> > >   Treat no effort defined as 0 minutes.
> > >
> > >   Bernt Hanses writes:
> > >
> > >   This changes the default value for Effort during agenda filtering
> > > so
> > >   that an undefined Effort value is treated as 0 instead of nil.
> > > Tasks
> > >   with no effort defined now return zero effort when selecting
> > > tasks for
> > >   the filter.
> > >
> > >   There was effectively no way to select 'tasks with no effort
> > > defined'
> > >   using the agenda effort filter.  The '<' operator is interpreted  
> > > as
> > >   '<=' and the default effort selection defined in
> > >   org-agenda-filter-by-tag starts with zero ("0 0:10 ...") so this
> > >   change just treats tasks with no effort defined the same as tasks
> > > with
> > >   an effort of 0.
> > >
> > >   This allows fast selection of NEXT tasks with no effort defined.
> > >   Column view with follow-mode active in the agenda is great for
> > > quickly
> > >   filling in the agenda estimated effort values for tasks.  Just
> > > display
> > >   your Next tasks, then / 0 to select tasks with no effort and enter
> > >   column mode (C-c C-x C-c) and fill in your effort values with the
> > >   quick keys (0-9) for all of the tasks that have blanks in the
> > > effort
> > >   column.
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------