Re: [Orgmode] export to html and relative links:

[T. V. Raman]

file:// urls are already designed to be platform independent.
So an org file should never carry in it a path like a\\b\\c.html
-- we should always use a/b/c.html
since that's the syntax used by relative URLs.

>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> writes:
    Carsten> Hi Raman, On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:48 PM, T. V. Raman
    Carsten> wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >> two suggestions:
    >> 
    >> 1) accept paths like "./foo.html" as local links.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> I will look into this.  The problem is the system
    Carsten> dependence of file names, so I am not sure what a
    Carsten> good solution would be that would work on Windows as
    Carsten> well as on Unix.
    Carsten> 
    >> 2) Augment C-c C-l to react to file: by providing filename
    >> completion relative to the working directory.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Hmm, that is difficult, but thanks for the pointer,
    Carsten> maybe we can steel some code.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> For now, if you use `C-u C-c C-l', you get file
    Carsten> completion, and the result will be a "file:" link
    Carsten> with a relative path (unless you enter a path
    Carsten> starting with "/").  Even if you find the file with
    Carsten> ../../../some/path, it will still be inserted as a
    Carsten> relative link.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    >> 
>
> The emacs binding to the w3m browser does this if you type
    >> file: in the minibuffer when prompted for a URL.
    >> 
    >>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <address@hidden>
    >>>>>>> writes:
    Carsten> Hmmmm, this is *such* a good idea, that I will
    Carsten> implement this retroactively into all versions since
    Carsten> ... 2.0 or so?  Abracadabra! Done.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> In fact, it has been working just so for a very long
    Carsten> time.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> file:foo.html -> href="foo.html" file:foo.org ->
    Carsten> href="foo.html"
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> The second line assumes that the org file foo.org
    Carsten> will also be converted to an html file in the
    Carsten> publishing process....
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Also, I was mistaken earlier:
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> http:foo.html becomes href="http:foo.html" and not
    Carsten> href="foo.html"
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> so this actually cannot be used for a local link.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> So what remains from this exchange?  Should we
    Carsten> accept links that look like absolute file names
    Carsten> (including ./foo.html) as equivalent to
    Carsten> file:./foo.html ?
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:25 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >>>> 
>> I think writing http:foo.html is a bad idea because typing
    >>>> that string in other contexts is sort of meaningless as
    >>>> a URL.  Until now, everything one types in org-mode sort
    >>>> of has meaning elsewhere. If you want it to look like a
    >>>> url in this case too then I'd suggest file:foo.html --
    >>>> rther than http:file.html.
    >>>> 
    >>>> I did not suggest that earlier because it's more chars
    >>>> to type, but that's not a huge concern since emacs does
    >>>> the typing, and we could always augment c-c c-l to
    >>>> enable authoring of relative links with file completion.
    >>>> 
    >>>> so file:a/b/c.html would become href="a/b/c.html" in the
    >>>> generated html.
    >>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik
    >>>>>>>>> <address@hidden> writes:
    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 5:33 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >>>>>> I've not tried http:foo.html -- but I suggest doing
    >>>>>> that to author a relative URL is a bad idea.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Can you explain why you think that this is a bad
    Carsten> idea?  Educate me!  What is wrong with writing
    Carsten> http:foo.html ??????
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    >>>>>> 
>>>
>>> I tried ./foo.html and that didn't work either. One
    >>>>>> compromise would be to get ./foo.html to link to a
    >>>>>> relative url, while foo.html continues to link to a
    >>>>>> local anchor
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik
    >>>>>>>>>>> <address@hidden> writes:
    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:49 AM, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >>>>>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> org-export turns links of the form [[foo][link to
    >>>>>>>> relative url foo]]
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> ends up creating links of the form <a
    >>>>>>>> href="#foo">...</a>
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> this means that it becomes impossible to write
    >>>>>>>> hyperlinks that are relative URLs.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Hi Raman,
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> the url goes into the first pair of square brackets,
    Carsten> the description into the second.  If you put
    Carsten> something into the first bracket pair that does not
    Carsten> look lie a url, it will be treated as an internal
    Carsten> link.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Have you tried to use something like
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> [[http:foo.html][link to relative url]]
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> ?
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> -- 
    >>>>>> Best Regards, --raman
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Email: address@hidden WWW:
    >>>>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk:
    >>>>>> address@hidden PGP:
    >>>>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
    >>>>>> Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs
    >>>> 
    >>>> -- 
    >>>> Best Regards, --raman
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> Email: address@hidden WWW:
    >>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk:
    >>>> address@hidden PGP:
    >>>> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google:
    >>>> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs
    >> 
    >> -- 
    >> Best Regards, --raman
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Email: address@hidden WWW:
    >> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk:
    >> address@hidden PGP:
    >> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google:
    >> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs

-- 
Best Regards,
--raman

      
Email:  address@hidden
WWW:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/
AIM:    emacspeak       GTalk: address@hidden
PGP:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
Google: tv+raman 
IRC:    irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs