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Re: Upcoming merge of adaptive-wrap


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: Re: Upcoming merge of adaptive-wrap
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 18:56:46 +0200
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On 27/01/2024 05:58, Po Lu wrote:
Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

But would they, largely? You actually have to visit the directory
which hosts NEWS on your system (where is it installed to?), mark all
previous NEWS files and do the search. That's non-trivial.

Is this meant to imply that selecting "Help -> Emacs News", then typing
`C-x d' is non-trivial?  What about reading the manual, or any other of
Emacs's built-in facilities for assisting users?

It's an order of a magnitude more involved than 'M-x list-packages' followed by C-s.

When users are stumped, their first reactions are to reach for the
documentation, be that the manual, apropos or NEWS.

Through Google -- maybe.

It also stands to reason that users outside the first two categories are
more inclined to take to a search engine, and to them this thread will
be more enlightening than the package menu ever will.

Because its title is a good match for whatever the user would search for? What would they search for, BTW?

If you sit every user behind a screen and force them to read either of
the texts entirely, sure. But that's not how it usually works.

[...]

It's a good explanation (easier to understand than the summary, I
agree), but I'm curious what would you improve in the summary to make
it more recognizable. Any particular keywords? From where I'm
standing, even after reading the description, all the important ones
seem to be there: "wrap", "adaptive", "line-wrapping", "wrap-prefix".

I never proposed to improve the summary, since in my opinion, the
current package description is already the optimum under the limitations
of its format.

You renamed the package to visual-wrap, so perhaps the term "visual" could help (instead of "smart"?).

There's also a mistake in the description now: visual-fill-mode does not exist.

Even if you're reading the NEWS, you probably don't carefully scan
every entry, so there must be some particular words which might have
piqued your interest in the way that the current summary does not.

The mental effort required to understand the NEWS and the documentation
I installed is so little that, truly, the only words left to be said are
"there are none so blind as those who will not see", assuming that the
reader is searching for this feature.

The issue is not reading a particular NEWS entry, but finding it.



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