Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 13:09:11 +0000
> Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 7:56 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> > >  - keep cl-lib available to it's current extent for end users
> > >
> > >  - try to get unnecessary cl-lib uses out of the code base
> > >
> > >  - make useful cl ideas available in the core language
> >
> > These are exactly our goals.  We've been doing this for years: that's
> > how stuff like 'when', 'unless', 'push', 'pop', and others got into
> > the core.
> >
> > IOW, the way to make some cl-lib functionality freely available in
> > core is to have a similar or identical implementation in the likes of
> > subr.el or seq.el, using our naming convention instead of cl-FOO.
> 
> I generally agree with the goal of bringing in cl-lib.el ideas into
> core, but it must be said here that seq.el, despite being a sequence
> processing library, should NOT be viewed as a drop-in replacement
> for cl-lib.el counterparts

That (and the rest of your message) completely misses my point, and
doesn't even belong to this discussion, to tell the truth.